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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - omahen - 07-01-2023

Houston seems to have too much young depth and it would make sense to consolidate some of that for future draft assets.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - F Gump - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 04:10 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Guys, I’m pretty sure this starts at the VET MIN. No prob, Bobs!

As reported (12M/3 yrs), no way. That size deal would have to start at no less than $3,703,704, and DP's min salary is $2,905,861. But even worse, the "minimum salary" slot we envisioned and kinda expected (because it fit) was for a one-year salary, which the league pays part of, and which would then have reduced the cap hit to $2,019,706.

As they sit, the Mavs no longer have room for a full MLE if Holmes is getting his full TK. If he's waiving it, they still have plenty of room, assuming 14 players.

But with a 4/5 group that includes so many centers (Holmes, McGee, Powell, Lively, and Maxi as a part-timer), it certainly seems like there must be more changes ahead. That will change the math in some way. And we can trust they are aware.


RE: JamesConway912 - BigDirk41 - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:25 PM)JamesConway912 Wrote: Looks an awful lot like they’re done:

Irving | Hardy
Hardaway | Curry
Green | Bullock
Doncic | Kleber | OMax
Powell | Holmes | Lively | McGee

They’ll probably bring back Justin Holiday or a similar cheap veteran but that’s about it I’d imagine.

If the Mavs were in the East, that would give them a chance. Unfortunately in the West, it doesn't even guarantee a playoff spot.


RE: JamesConway912 - Mavs2021 - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:25 PM)JamesConway912 Wrote: Looks an awful lot like they’re done:

Irving | Hardy
Hardaway | Curry
Green | Bullock
Doncic | Kleber | OMax
Powell | Holmes | Lively | McGee

They’ll probably bring back Justin Holiday or a similar cheap veteran but that’s about it I’d imagine.

At the end of the day the Mavs had to do it. There are only two franchises in the league that can say they got a Curry to sign three contracts with them. Big Grin


JamesConway912 - JamesConway912 - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:26 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: If the Mavs were in the East, that would give them a chance. Unfortunately in the West, it doesn't even guarantee a playoff spot.

I‘d imagine nothing has changed and there’s still nobody who’d want Bullock/Hardaway/Holmes/McGee on their team given their contracts. At least not for any type of quality return.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - cow - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:25 PM)F Gump Wrote: But with a 4/5 group that includes so many centers (Holmes, McGee, Powell, Lively, and Maxi as a part-timer), it certainly seems like there must be more changes ahead. That will change the math in some way. And we can trust they are aware.

Please be right and please don't fumble the ball, MBT.


JamesConway912 - JamesConway912 - 07-01-2023

They probably just pencil Kleber in at PF. Then you only have four guys at Center with Powell as the starter ahead of Holmes, Lively and McGee.

Nothing they haven’t done before. The roster is finished barring the two way stuff and maybe a minimum guy.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - Chicagojk - 07-01-2023

Still very early. But if it is just Powell and Seth curry….that is not good enough. Most of the guys I would have liked have been out of our price range. But this team has a glaring hole at PF. Much bigger than the third guard last year imo. Still early but they need to address their weaknesses this offseaon.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - omahen - 07-01-2023

Russ returns to Clippers on a 2 year 8 mil deal


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - IamDougieFresh - 07-01-2023

As Dwight’s #1 hater, I suggest everyone calm down.


JamesConway912 - JamesConway912 - 07-01-2023

Not too long ago we started the season with

Powell
WCS
Moses Brown
Boban

why wouldn’t they start the year with

Powell
Holmes
Lively
McGee

now?

If they had a trade we’d probably already heard about it. They just signed their fallback options with Powell and Curry, the full
MLE is gone. They’ve called it a day.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - omahen - 07-01-2023

Wow. Landale got 32 mil for four years from Houston. They really just paid Atlanta to take two guys on rookie contracts, so they could have enough space for Landale and Mills. These are the kind of deals I get pissed Mavs don't take.

Twitter started working again


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - omahen - 07-01-2023

Wow, Magic paid the lesser Wagner 16 mil for two years

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1675238674697711616


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - Mavs2021 - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:46 PM)omahen Wrote: Wow, Magic paid the lesser Wagner 16 mil for two years

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1675238674697711616

Why wow?

11/5/2 gets you 8, if
7/4/1 gets you 4

Makes sense on my Dwight Powell scale for center excellence.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - RoyTarpleysGhost - 07-01-2023

Houston has lost its damn mind.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - cow - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:40 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: As Dwight’s #1 hater, I suggest everyone calm down.

Me and Dougie about to star in Trading Places sequel.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - omahen - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:50 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Houston has lost its damn mind.

I think they had a plan and they executed it. Sure, it looks like they overpaid a lot. But, they have huge upside in their youngsters and finally some vets around them. They will be better than last season. Still plenty flexibility going forward.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - Luka77 - 07-01-2023

Houston is going to have some of the worst contracts in the NBA.
FVV-ugly
Brooks-ugly
Landale-okay (only the first year is guaranteed)


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - omahen - 07-01-2023

Another wing off the market. The lesser McDaniels to Toronto for 9 mil for 2 years. Toronto obviously plans to play wings only

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1675276450855804929


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame Requests Trade, Wants MIA only. - Luka77 - 07-01-2023

(07-01-2023, 05:54 PM)omahen Wrote: Another wing off the market. The lesser McDaniels to Toronto for 9 mil for 2 years. Toronto obviously plans to play wings only

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1675276450855804929
Isn't this the same contract the Mavs gave Seth?  If so that is disappointing.