(04-11-2023, 08:40 AM)omahen Wrote: Detroit has most of positions covered by high potential youngsters, with the exception of PF. They have been playing dual center line-ups for a while. Is Wemby a C or a PF? I guess you could play him next to a center (similar discussion we had related to Houston and Sengun). What Detroit lacks is a franchise cornerstone. Cunningham showed promise but is injured a lot. Wemby is the only clear cut franchise piece, so what happens if they don't get #1 pick? Scoot Henderson doesn't really fit the picture, Miller could make more sense for them

If Detroit drafts Wemby:
PG: Ivey, Hayes
SG: Cunningham
SF: Bogi
PF: Wemby, Bagley
C: Duren, Wiseman, Stewart

If Detroit drafts Miller:
PG: Ivey, Hayes
SG: Cunningham
SF: Miller
PF: Bogi, Bagley
C: Duren, Wiseman, Stewart

Center position is full in both cases, but I am not sure they would have much interest moving Duren. He could be a starter in both cases. He was pick #13 and proved he can play. I assume he has at least #10 pick value.

(04-11-2023, 08:54 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Trading Duren is a longshot.   If I was running a team I would hold onto him.  I believe he was the youngest player in the league this year.  I would not move that asset even if I wound up with Wemby.   It would be interesting to see who they prioritized in keeping though in Wiseman or Stewart.   There was a report that they had Wisemen very highly rated in the draft and he has played pretty well for the tanking Pistons.   I believe the GM has some sort of tie to Stewart prior to him being drafted.    You would think they would move one, but not sure which one.  Probably Stewart.

(04-11-2023, 08:50 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: If pick 10 is kept, would you trade if for Myles Turner?   It seems like you would be buying at a premium.   Last year he was probably available for less.   I just hate trading for guys at their premium price.  He would certainly help our interior defense.  Could you get back their late first?

Would you trade it for Ayton if the Suns have a disappointing playoffs?   I think this will be a legit conversation for both teams..especially if PHX loses before the finals.  Not sure how I feel about this.

John Collins?  Straight up for pick #10 doesn't work.    There were reports he was almost moved to PHX for Crowder and a first, I believe.  Could we do that similar framework using Bullock and our 27th first?   That salary is awfully tough to swallow though.

(04-11-2023, 09:06 AM)omahen Wrote: This is the Mavs chart taking out of equation all FA to be (except Irving, who needs to be resigned if we want to speak about contending).

Starters
Irving
Doncic
Green
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-

Reserves
-
Hardy, THJ
Bullock
Maxi
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(04-11-2023, 07:22 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Maybe if you switched out Stewart instead of Duren?  But this would be less appealing for Dallas.

(04-11-2023, 06:35 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don't think its an overpay.  Break it into its parts:

(04-11-2023, 03:09 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Scenario, Dereck Lively II is available at #21 (and he’s a vetted out want for the Mavs) and we’ve picked someone BKN wants at #10. Would you do:

THJ, McGee and #10 for DFS, ONeal, #21 and our 29 back

In all honesty, I’m not so sure I would. I think if we trade the 10, it needs to be for a starting quality C or a Siakam/OG level SF/PF type. Not so sure the #10 is enough for those types considering the asks for a lot of these players lately. Only other option is to use it in a 3 team trade for a slightly upgraded player and our two outstanding picks left out there (NYK pick and BKN one).

(04-11-2023, 04:40 PM)cow Wrote: They wouldn't.  That unprotected 29 is a lottery ticket.

(04-12-2023, 11:18 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I think the guaranteed lottery pick in this draft to help right now as opposed to a lottery ticket 6 years from now is enticing enough.

(04-12-2023, 11:18 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I think the guaranteed lottery pick in this draft to help right now as opposed to a lottery ticket 6 years from now is enticing enough.

(04-12-2023, 01:27 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't see how the Mavs are somehow getting 2 FRP's for Timmy, McGee and #10.

Maybe if that was the 3rd pick in the draft...? But certainly not an end of lottery one. And at the 3rd pick I'd rather the Mavs take Brandon Miller and be happy.

(04-12-2023, 01:50 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I would assume that getting out of the mentioned contracts costs at least one of those picks. Even more if the returning players/salary has positive value.

(04-12-2023, 02:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/mavsfilmroom/status/1646220501633716224?s=46&t=Fmdr94oXagcEyy75KJqaFg

In other news, Dwight Powell will probably the longest tenured Mav in franchise history. Year 22 will come sooner than we think.

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Right I didn't even get into the value of getting off of McGee and/or Timmy in that supposed deal. And somehow also getting Doe back! 

I love ya IGT but that deal is definitely one of your more pie in the sky ones.  

(04-12-2023, 04:00 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: Just an FYI, but here's how the lottery, draft and offseason will go:

-- The Mavs will get the 2nd pick (Scoot Henderson) and trade it and THJ to the Jazz for Colin Sexton, Walker Kessler, #10, #16 in 2023 and the Minnesota pick in 2024.  The Jazz can then build around Markannen and Scoot.

-- The Mavs trade Bertans, Bullock, Kleber, McGee, Hardy, #16 in 2023, Minny 2024 and Dallas' 2027 FRPs to the Raptors for OG Anunoby and Siakam.  Bertans is essentially an expiring deal.

-- At #10 the Mavs pick Taylor Hendricks.

-- Mavs resign Kyrie to 3yr/$120m deal

2023/24 Lineup

Luka, Sexton
Kyrie,
Anunoby, Green
Siakam, Hendricks
Kessler

There's now an equal balance of offense and defense.  The Mavs will be a legit threat again.



Oh, wait.  Cuban's the GM.  This will never happen.  Carry on.