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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-30-2023
Maybe we were getting a little carried away with how many minutes Hardy will play this year.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - SleepingHero - 06-30-2023
The real question is, where is McGee getting dumped?
Stein all but confirmed McGee isn't viewed in the teams plans so he has to be moved somewhere. I hear HOU has a lot of money to burn and is looking for a center lol
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-30-2023
Seth would be great on games decided on the free throw line.
I hated the time when the whole team (specially THJ) bricking free throws.
Now the Mavs have Kyrie and Seth for these type of play scenarios where the other team is fouling.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - MFFL - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:10 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Im trying to figure out lineups where he makes sense though. Small and cant guard next to Luka and Kyrie. We were thinking Hardy would have the bench microwave scorer role.
Lets say Kyrie/Josh Green/Luka start.
Hardy/Seth/Bullock off the bench?
Hardy might be on the move for a big trade
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - RasheedsBigWhiteSpot - 06-30-2023
Secondary question for cap experts:
Is the "Bi" Annual Exception also when you can hook up with your own/opposite gender once a year without being considered 100% gay/straight?
Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:10 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Hardy/Seth/Bullock off the bench?
Hardy isn't terrible defensively.
Bullock is.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - KillerLeft - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:16 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Maybe we were getting a little carried away with how many minutes Hardy will play this year.
He’s the 3rd point guard, by my count. Right now, at least. I think he’ll get some chances.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Jym - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:23 PM)MFFL Wrote: Hardy might be on the move for a big trade
Make it happen, Nico
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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - SleepingHero - 06-30-2023
@johnhollinger
@johnhollinger
Wondering if this is a prelude to an imminent multi-team trade involving a certain bearded guard.
Koprivica's rights could be used as the touch on one of the peripheral teams.
Quote:@AndrewGreif
The Clippers have also sent cash to Detroit for the draft rights to Balsa Koprivica, per source.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-30-2023
76ers need a shooting guard, right?
Although I guess they could just get Norman Powell straight from LA instead of a convoluted THJ trade.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:26 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: He’s the 3rd point guard, by my count. Right now, at least. I think he’ll get some chances.
I think both he and Seth share the 3rd ballhandler role.
Both aren't good enough to be backup PGs, but can ably fill up spot minutes at PG when they have to.
Not ideal for long stretches, but if the Mavs get a couple of more guys who can dribble better than THJ or RB (more on the Green level of handles), then not having a third PG can work.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - SleepingHero - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:13 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: This tells a lot.
1. They've got plans for the MLE.
2. THJ is gone.
3. A bigger trade is eminent that is neutral financially that allows for both the MLE and BAE to be used.
It's like Mavs Sudoku.
Putting the pieces together with rumors....
Harden to LAC almost has to be a done deal. They probably need a 3rd team though to make sure the salaries all match (I assume have not done the math at all).
But could there be 3 team trade where the Mavs send off THJ+Bullock to either PHI or LAC and they get handsomely rewarded with Zubac+Markieff Morris?
That adds up to 27 mil. So does Bullock+THJ
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Branduil - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:23 PM)MFFL Wrote: Hardy might be on the move for a big trade
He better not be.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - KillerLeft - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:35 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: I think both he and Seth share the 3rd ballhandler role.
Both aren't good enough to be backup PGs, but can ably fill up spot minutes at PG when they have to.
Not ideal for long stretches, but if the Mavs get a couple of more guys who can dribble better than THJ or RB (more on the Green level of handles), then not having a third PG can work.
But the difference is that, to me, handling the ball is Hardy’s way to earn his place in the league and a good second contract.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - DanSchwartzgan - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:36 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Putting the pieces together with rumors....
Harden to LAC almost has to be a done deal. They probably need a 3rd team though to make sure the salaries all match (I assume have not done the math at all).
But could there be 3 team trade where the Mavs send off THJ+Bullock to either PHI or LAC and they get handsomely rewarded with Zubac+Markieff Morris?
That adds up to 27 mil. So does Bullock+THJ
The BAE hard caps Dallas at $172mm for 23/24. So, anyone designing trades needs to bear that in mind.
Sorry I can’t contribute more tonight. Internet where I am keeps going in and out. Maddening. I wasn’t thinking about this when I booked the trip.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - IamDougieFresh - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: He's definitely going to come in for the final 5 minutes of the 1st and play until 8 mins left in the 2nd with the 2nd unit. Which means he'll be next to either 1 of Kyrie or Luka.
As long as he's surrounded by 2 big wings (say OMP/Green/whoever they sign for the MLE) then Seth fits like a glove as the teams secondary ball handler.
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Luka
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1st subs= Seth/Green/OMP
I feel the need to inform you that Luka/Kyrie/HARDY will be our 3 leading scorers. 75+ ppg combined.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Branduil - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:36 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Putting the pieces together with rumors....
Harden to LAC almost has to be a done deal. They probably need a 3rd team though to make sure the salaries all match (I assume have not done the math at all).
But could there be 3 team trade where the Mavs send off THJ+Bullock to either PHI or LAC and they get handsomely rewarded with Zubac+Markieff Morris?
That adds up to 27 mil. So does Bullock+THJ
I would not describe Zubac and Morris as "handsomely rewarded"
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Reunion Mav - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: That's incredible value for Seth imo.
44% career 3pt shooter, already established chemistry with Luka. Sure he doesn't have the defensive chops, but thats like trying to eat soup with a very fancy knife. Wrong tool.
Hes going to finally bring some consistent shooting and I think this definitely means both THJ and Bullock are outta here.
He shoots better than Bertans who missed so many big opportunity shots. Seth is far more clutch and neither play defense. Not many 44% shooters also play defense.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:37 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: But the difference is that, to me, handling the ball is Hardy’s way to earn his place in the league and a good second contract.
I think if Hardy is with Seth, he becomes the PG, thus more ballhandling and PG duties for him.
The only other time I can see him handle the ball would be -- when a play calls for Luka or Kyrie to go off-ball (which I suspect wouldn't be a lot).
I'd like to think that Hardy realizes that the best way to earn more minutes is him learning how to play defense. I don't think he is bad at it, but if he gets it defensively, he is going to play a lot. I say this since even a shoot-only guard like Seth can trump him on offense (depending on the Mavs designs). For Hardy to play a lot, he should be significantly better than Seth in all aspects, but more so defensively (which shouldn't be hard to do).
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Grant to POR for 5/160| FVV signs w/HOU 3/130 - SleepingHero - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 09:45 PM)Branduil Wrote: I would not describe Zubac and Morris as "handsomely rewarded"
I would Zubac is an ideal center for the Mavs.
Morris is the cost of getting off of THJ+Bullock and he fills the need for a defensive minded 4 that can score a bit.
Plus we have his brother here, and he's spoken a lot on how much he loved playing with Kyrie. Lots of smoke there.