(04-08-2023, 08:21 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: List the names you think will not be back in order of your belief that they need to go and likelihood that they will.

(04-08-2023, 12:12 PM)omahen Wrote: I honestly don't care a lot about guys like Morris, FN, Pinson and Holiday. They are vet min guys and other vet min guys will not be any better than they are. Sure, I would prefer to replace at least two of them with late SRP or undrafted guys. AJ Lawson looks like he could be just fine in this role. Please Cuban, finally spend the 5 million and buy a SRP or two. 

Center position. None of existing guys is a starter. You can afford to have one more "more than vet min" center on the roster. McGee is the third stringer at best and paid as second stringer. He should be gone, but Mavs can't afford to spend assets dumping him. He likely stays as an overpaid third stringer.  So, I think one of the remaining two will stay as the second stringer, most likely Powell.

Maxi and Bullock fall into same category for me. Neither is totally useless but also not any good. They have their moments, but they have been rare this season. Bullocks contract is good for trade purpose, so I think he will be gone. 

Bertans and THJ have both high and non expiring contracts. Both are expendable. Mavs will sure try to include them in deals, but who knows if there will be any takers. I predict one of them, most likely Bertans, will remain on the team.

Green and Hardy. I don't think Mavs have the ammo for more than average starter and I think picks should be enough of an incentive for those kind of players. Trading Green and Hardy just creates another hole needed to be filled and vet min guys Mavs can bring as replacement will be a sorry substitution.  

Irving and Luka will stay.

What I want to see is adding two starters to this team to continue watching Mavs. One of them could be the rookie, but they need one more. They need a PF and C. There seem to be several PF rookies available in the draft around the #10 pick, but basically no centers, with the highest ones around pick number 20 (Lively). No idea if this guy is ready to be a starter in a 20+ mpg role. However, one move could be to trade down from #10 to get Lively and bring another starter with the difference in value between (lets say) #10 and #20. NBA tankhaton has Mavs at #10 with Hendricks and GSW at #20 with Lively. So perhaps #10 and THJ to GSW for Green and #20 (Lively) could be a smart move, getting two players that fit the needs, for one pick.

(04-09-2023, 08:40 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1644804756123049984?s=46&t=CryhMTxulyrD7IV56fCwuQ

(04-09-2023, 08:57 AM)omahen Wrote: It is difficult for me to assess the value of the pick, but I think Mavs will be targeting non star starters with the pick. Guys like Turner, OG and (still think he is the main target) Green. However, it takes two to tango and none of those could be available. Keeping the pick is always an option, but it is not so interesting to discuss, so a couple of trade down ideas:
1. New Orleans - #10+McGee for Herb Jones, Kira Lewis and #17. Jones is a great defender, but not a great shooter. If he could improve a bit, he could be exactly what Mavs need. Lewis was a dissapointment, but his contract is a year shorter than McGee and easier to move. Mavs add athleticism and still have a decent pick
2. BKN - #10 and Bertans for DFS, O'Neal and #21. Mavs lose the upside for two solid wings.

(04-09-2023, 09:09 AM)loki Wrote: I'd target Claxton and one of DFS/O'Neale rather than two wings.

(04-09-2023, 09:27 AM)omahen Wrote: Yeah, me too. But Claxton had an excellent season and is a one year rental. 
 

(04-09-2023, 09:43 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: s there a world in which we add Bertans and the unprotected 2027 and get Bridges also?

(04-09-2023, 09:43 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, the reason it might be scary to trade for him is the same reason he might be available.  McGee and 10 for Claxton and 21?

(04-09-2023, 09:27 AM)omahen Wrote: 1. Capela. They might prefer Okongwu going forward. He is not worth a #10 pick but the difference between #10 and their #15 is not that big to incentivize them to take back a bad contract like Bertans or McGee. I mean, I would immediately do Bullock+McGee+#10 for Capela and #15, but I doubt they would. Would you throw in Hardy?

(04-09-2023, 10:19 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I actually love the idea of trying to get Capela and letting the Hawks move up. 

Hawks are in a similar situation as the Mavs cap wise. Lots of bloated contracts and underperforming players. I'd try to add onto that framework and add in a guy like Collins or Hunter (who has been pretty bad) and give them Bertans. Maybe there is a Christian Wood SnT angle here as well. 

Capela+Collins(or Hunter)+15 for McGee+Bullock+Bertans+10. Hawks save at a minimum 7mil and that can balloon up to 14 mil (Tack on 5-8mil if they waive Bullock). That's big savings.

(04-09-2023, 10:19 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'd try to add onto that framework and add in a guy like Collins or Hunter (who has been pretty bad) and give them Bertans.

(04-09-2023, 10:19 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Maybe there is a Christian Wood SnT angle here as well. 

(04-09-2023, 10:19 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: that can balloon up to 14 mil (Tack on 5-8mil if they waive Bullock)

(04-09-2023, 10:19 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: That's big savings.

(04-09-2023, 09:58 AM)omahen Wrote:  
These are exactly my fears. It is not worth giving up a #10 (even with 21 coming back) for a one year rental and BKN might be reluctant to trade him for less compensation. Does he have bird rights after next season?

(04-09-2023, 10:29 AM)omahen Wrote: I think Bullock needs to be fully guaranteed if traded.
 

(04-09-2023, 10:29 AM)omahen Wrote: I think Bullock needs to be fully guaranteed if traded.

(04-09-2023, 10:59 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: His guarantee date June 28th according to Hoopshype. Draft is June 22nd. So if the Hawks wanted to they could trade and waive him on draft night.

(04-09-2023, 09:27 AM)omahen Wrote: Yeah, me too. But Claxton had an excellent season and is a one year rental. 

List of current centers that make sense for Mavs team:
1. Capela. They might prefer Okongwu going forward. He is not worth a #10 pick but the difference between #10 and their #15 is not that big to incentivize them to take back a bad contract like Bertans or McGee. I mean, I would immediately do Bullock+McGee+#10 for Capela and #15, but I doubt they would. Would you throw in Hardy?
2. Rob Williams. A bit undersized and injured a lot. I doubt we have anything that would interest Boston
3. Claxton. Could be a target but is he really worth a #10 pick?
4. Stewart - not worth #10 pick, unless Mavs take back some protected future picks. Still, I would prefer the upside of the #10 pick.
5. Turner - how long of a rebuild is Indy planning? I doubt he would be available, but #10 for him seems like a good trade for both sides, if they are considering moving him.
6. Ayton. I can't see how a move for him could be done
7. Gafford. Nothing special. But would you consider something like Bullock, Green and #10 for Gafford and #8? Mavs would severly lack wings and that number #8 better becomes near star.