(06-30-2023, 08:10 AM)Mavs32 Wrote: Question for the cap people.  if the Sixers and Clipps were ok on a Harden+Harris for PG deal could the Mavs enter as a third team and in the process sign and trade Kyrie to the Sixers? Or does a sign and trade need to only be with two teams?
(I could get the trade done successfully on fanspo but not on spotrac)

I was thinking
76'ers get PG + Kyrie
Clipps get Harden + Harris
Mavs get T.Maxey, Powell, Covington, protected 2028 1st from Philly & a protected 2029 1st from LA.

76'ers get two stars
Clipps get good return for PG and get off the Powell contract
Mavs get a young stud in Maxey, 2 firsts and an expiring for the price of taking on Powell's contract.

then the Mavs could be in the Dame Lillard business if they want to but whatever they decide going forward, they have the ability make serious moves.

(06-30-2023, 08:18 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I just don't think the demand is high for Harden right now.   He can't be extended, so he is pretty much a rental.   And there is question if he really is a guy you want to extend for big money at 35.   I mean it appears his biggest cheerleader in Morey was reluctant to offer him the big deal he was expecting.   

I don't think Paul George is in any way a part of the Harden deal.   

 it is reported that a Harden deal may happen fast, I think it may go longer.   Maybe I am completely wrong.   I just think this is such a big move for Philly.  If they don't get value, there is real risk they are stuck in no mans land.  Dallas has a similar dance they need to hit.   So, I expect we will hear some crazy trade rumors for Harden and Harris over the next few weeks.   Eventhough Harden wants the Clippers, I would warn LAC that Morey is a beast to deal with and will not make any move unless he feels he is the clear winner.  That is going to be difficult due to the cards he is holding.

(06-30-2023, 08:35 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Seems like Harden’s game has declined, and could be on the verge of dropping off a cliff.
His defense has never been a thing of beauty, and as he gets slower, it gets even worse. He’s always needed the ball in his hands to be effective, but what happens as his efficiency drops? Russell Westbrook 2.0? Carmelo 2.0?

And that contract! Ouch! And the ego!

I just don’t see him accepting a low-salary secondary or bench role.

(06-30-2023, 08:10 AM)Mavs32 Wrote: Question for the cap people.  if the Sixers and Clipps were ok on a Harden+Harris for PG deal could the Mavs enter as a third team and in the process sign and trade Kyrie to the Sixers? Or does a sign and trade need to only be with two teams?
(I could get the trade done successfully on fanspo but not on spotrac)

I was thinking
76'ers get PG + Kyrie
Clipps get Harden + Harris
Mavs get T.Maxey, Powell, Covington, protected 2028 1st from Philly & a protected 2029 1st from LA.

76'ers get two stars
Clipps get good return for PG and get off the Powell contract
Mavs get a young stud in Maxey, 2 firsts and an expiring for the price of taking on Powell's contract.

then the Mavs could be in the Dame Lillard business if they want to but whatever they decide going forward, they have the ability make serious moves.

(06-30-2023, 09:06 AM)mvossman Wrote: The Mavs are very unlikely to get Maxey out of a Kyrie S&T let alone a couple of firsts with him.  Getting Maxey and taking on Harris massive salary is something I think most of us would do, which probably means its not doable.

(06-30-2023, 09:06 AM)mvossman Wrote: The Mavs are very unlikely to get Maxey out of a Kyrie S&T let alone a couple of firsts with him.  Getting Maxey and taking on Harris massive salary is something I think most of us would do, which probably means its not doable.

(06-30-2023, 09:12 AM)Mavs32 Wrote: I still need someone to answer the main question. is it possible as a procedure under the cap?

(06-30-2023, 09:20 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Agree on the picks.  I don’t think Harris/Maxey is possible either.  Kyrie/McGee for Harris alone would probably be a victory.  Philly stars are Embiid, Irving, Maxey and they add the stuff from LAC to their bench (I doubt they want Powell, so that may be problematic.  Harden is not a S&T and LAC won’t have an exception, so no hard cap concerns for them…just the reduced trade spread.

(06-30-2023, 10:04 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: "The Indiana Pacers are nearing a trade sending guard Chris Duarte to the Sacramento Kings for draft compensation, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium"

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1674789506149646338

(06-30-2023, 10:03 AM)mvossman Wrote: Kyrie/McGee for Harris would not be a victory.  You seem to have swung wildly pessimistic on the Kyrie situation after hearing one report from an LA reporter than he is talking to the Suns.  If we can't come to terms with him the most likely outcome will be an S&T and it sure as hell needs to be better than Kyrie/McGee for Harris.

(06-30-2023, 10:30 AM)Tyler Wrote: Powell likely staying.

https://twitter.com/MavsPlsWin/status/1674800677397180416

(06-30-2023, 10:33 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Stein makes it sound like a near certainty in the piece he just released.

(06-30-2023, 10:30 AM)Tyler Wrote: Powell likely staying.

https://twitter.com/MavsPlsWin/status/1674800677397180416

(06-30-2023, 10:44 AM)mvossman Wrote: To be perfectly honest, I think this makes the most sense.  Ideally for the min, but more likely BAE.  Looking longer term, Holmes/Powell is a tolerable temp situation until Lively can take over.  Prefer this to Drummond for sure.  Would feel a lot better about this if they can dump McGee.

(06-30-2023, 10:04 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: "The Indiana Pacers are nearing a trade sending guard Chris Duarte to the Sacramento Kings for draft compensation, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium"

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1674789506149646338