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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 10:06 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Just an across the sports spectrum buyer beware statement... Overpaying for championship role players rarely pays off. Those backup minutes on outstanding teams are not analogous to starter minutes on a good team. How is this looking backwards? Bruce Browns game didn’t change, the team around him did. The point he’s trying to make is that he’s been successful in both roles, guarding POA and handling the ball AND playing as a small ball big. The reason he didn’t get the bag last offseason is because folks felt he was ONLY a small ball big actually. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 10:06 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Just an across the sports spectrum buyer beware statement... Overpaying for championship role players rarely pays off. Those backup minutes on outstanding teams are not analogous to starter minutes on a good team. So Brown forgot how to set screens and short roll? All of a sudden cannot defend bigger wings anymore even though he was doing it for the Nets and Nuggets (on switches)? RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - Mavs2021 - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 09:55 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1674067440739708931?s=46&t=Fmdr94oXagcEyy75KJqaFg Kyrie + Maxi for Garland + Allen. Our whole timeline shifts like crazy. That would be an amazing deal. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-28-2023 https://twitter.com/James_HamNBA/status/1673923633301864449 Quote:According to a league source, the Kings and Harrison Barnes’ camp have restarted talks. No word if he will sign a new extension, but they are back at the table. Barnes avoiding free agency??? RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-28-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1674076794809376770 Quote: The Rockets are planning to ‘tempt’ Fred VanVleet with a contract starting at $40M per year, per Goes along with recent rumors that Harden stays in Philly. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - Chicagojk - 06-28-2023 I think Houston will be fascinating this offseason. Who is going to take their money. For me, if i was a free agent I don't think I would be pumped going to Houston right now. They have a lot of young talent, but I am not sure if it is ready to win yet. Plus, they have a lot of young players that expect minutes. Could be a difficult space for a veteran. Jake Fisher mentioned tis morning have been gauging interest in players like KJ Martin, Usman Garuba and Josh Christopher. Martin is a FA after next year and is probably in line for a bigger payday. Garuba may just be lost in the shuffle with all their other younger players. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-28-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1674074046416273411 Quote: All signs point to Brook Lopez, Khris Middleton and Jae Crowder staying in Milwaukee, per https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1674078983321710592 Quote:Teams that have made calls for Pascal Siakam: RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - Chicagojk - 06-28-2023 Fisher mentioned that Christian Wood is a name mentioned as a potential target for Miami. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 09:45 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: A 3+1 descending contract for the least amount of money realistically possible is the most ideal scenario. We need his cap hit this year to be smaller so we have access to the MLE. Not sure why everyone started talking about a descending contract all of a sudden. (06-28-2023, 10:37 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think Houston will be fascinating this offseason. Who is going to take their money. For me, if i was a free agent I don't think I would be pumped going to Houston right now. They have a lot of young talent, but I am not sure if it is ready to win yet. Plus, they have a lot of young players that expect minutes. Could be a difficult space for a veteran. Houston seems like a team with a bad owner that wants to cobble together a competitive team to sell tickets instead of continuing the rebuild. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - The Jom - 06-28-2023 A little less ghost of podkolzin, a little more action, please All this PF obsession ain't satisfactioning me A little more bite, a little less bark A little less fight and a little more spark Close your mouth and open up your heart, and Mavricks, satisfy me Satisfy me, baby RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - Ghost of Podkolzin - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 10:13 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: How is this looking backwards? Bruce Browns game didn’t change, the team around him did. The point he’s trying to make is that he’s been successful in both roles, guarding POA and handling the ball AND playing as a small ball big. The reason he didn’t get the bag last offseason is because folks felt he was ONLY a small ball big actually. How is looking back over 2 years ago looking backwards? Say that out loud. Nellie used to start Erick Strickland at C. They're the same size. Does that mean Brown can be a C too? How many championships did Nellie win with this type of nonsense? Let me get this straight. Y'all are projecting to start Brown at PF because he did so in the Nets failed experiment over 2 years ago and not use him like he was used on last year's championship team? Do you not see the madness in this? How about we build a roster in the likeness of DEN, you know the champions, and not in the likeness of failed gimmicks? Rebounding is a key to defense. You want to rotate a washed up Holmes, always injured bad rebounding Maxi, Luka, and 6 guards and expect to rebound? RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - mvossman - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 09:38 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Do the math. You need about 4k minutes at each of the 5 positions. Just listing a name is not enough. What are your projections on how much each can play? How many minutes? Brown at PF??? Are you being served? Holmes to start????? You do realize that the original definition of a "wing" is a tweener SG/SF right? I think your projections are simplistically looking at just the last season. There is a lot more context to work from than that. The Luka exit plan bit is a beating. The FO probably has a better idea of what will make Luka happy than you or I do. It looks like focusing on character guys and a longer term plan is what they are going with. They don't appear to be worried about going through some growing pains this coming season as long as its growing pains and not dysfunction. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - michaeltex - 06-28-2023 Regarding Kyrie, should we expect a quick (day 1?) resolution to his contract status or will it get dragged out and gum up the works on whether or not the MLE/BAE is available? RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 10:41 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: We need his cap hit this year to be smaller so we have access to the MLE. Not sure why everyone started talking about a descending contract all of a sudden. Even worse. Tanking isn´t even an option because OKC owns Houstons 2024 + 2026 first (top 4 protected). Paying the price for Westbrook/CP3 and other roster building mistakes. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-28-2023 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1674083177554497537 Quote:The Sixers are expected to offer James Harden a contract ‘considerably higher’ than his $35.6M player option, per Brian Windhorst RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 10:47 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: How is looking back over 2 years ago looking backwards? Say that out loud. No one is suggesting that as his full time role, simply saying there's already evidence he can play that role if we need him too. The whole appeal of a player like Bruce Brown is that you can do a ton of different things with him, people are simply using his time at the Nets as proof that he can. No one is suggesting trying to win a championship with Bruce Brown playing a ton of minutes at center but I also wouldn't call that Nets team a failure as it was essentially a KD big toe away from beating the eventual champs (Bruce Brown played 52 minutes at center in that game 7 FYI). Of course the goal would be to play him to his strengths but if you haven't noticed, this team still has giant holes in the front court so why are you so opposed to the idea of him helping in that area if he's proven that he can? RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - SleepingHero - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 10:41 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: We need his cap hit this year to be smaller so we have access to the MLE. Not sure why everyone started talking about a descending contract all of a sudden. At 45mil, the avenues of getting to full MLE and BAE are open as long as Bullock is S/W The draw for a descending contract just makes Kyrie a more appealing asset in a couple of years. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU to offer FVV 2/80m?| Mavs called about Siakam? - Chicagojk - 06-28-2023 https://twitter.com/TheBoxAndOne_/status/1674086136187166722 Grant Williams Starter kit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRyMtnXjW6o RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU to offer FVV 2/80m?| Mavs called about Siakam? - SleepingHero - 06-28-2023 For potential external targets: Christian Wood continues to be mentioned by league personnel as someone on the Heat’s radar. From Jake Fischer's new article: https://sports.yahoo.com/2023-nba-free-agency-the-blazers-quest-to-improve-around-damian-lillard-remains-a-serious-challenge-152827475.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFPSTvfF_WbatvTLw2bfLAZ47QgNXwApQ9y2L2c-jKhOEF5GTWJfeHSTRYEbv5eH849PqJPWRazdc_R0peM_1N3cz6UA3mD-WxXzFDXEp8VnW0mGNFNGt42o7lm6k_pL1L2Pq9B-D9s92dAwWAdOwGwHNHxqH92-ytr9qZBTisuD https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1674089543287427073?s=46&t=Fmdr94oXagcEyy75KJqaFg NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) Yuta Watanabe is a potential target for the Phoenix Suns, per @TheSteinLine “As Phoenix scours the league for quality players willing to play for the league minimum and chase a ring in its supporting cast surrounding Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal, Nets… RE: Trade & FA 2023-24:HOU likes FVV+Brooks| MIA to S/W Lowry if no trade? - KillerLeft - 06-28-2023 (06-28-2023, 11:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: At 45mil, the avenues of getting to full MLE and BAE are open as long as Bullock is S/W If the 4/160 rumor is true, he’d start way under that, no? I hope it’s true. |