(06-28-2023, 06:53 AM)MFFL Wrote: Assuming that Skin is right, who would prefer the deal to a decreasing number?

23-24 $44,285,714
24-25 $41,428,571
25-26 $38,571,429
26-27 $35,714,286
$160m

(06-28-2023, 07:16 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote:  
I think raises should be for the young and prime players. Then flat/declining for 31+.

(06-28-2023, 07:50 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Back to the discussion about PJ Washington (or Bridges or another 4/5 type from Charlotte for that matter).  If Ayton doesn't happen, I think we can apply the same formula to Hayward.  He is a $31.5mm expiring that clears THJ's money next season).  We have a trade spread credit still available from Bertans, so we don't have to actually match Hayward's salary with new outgoing money.  And, if we add a player to Hardaway/Holmes, we have room to bring back PJ or Bridges and Kai Jones or something like that.  

Charlotte has Bridges, PJ and newly drafted Brandon Miller to add to their big wing rotation.  Hayward is also part of that grouping.  Mark Williams is the C and they have Nick Richards, Kai Jones and JT Thor under contract as other bigs.  That is a bunch of front court players and they need to create some PT for Miller.  Meanwhile, they are thin at guard.

I won't go through all of the iterations, but an example of what could be done is Charlotte receives Holmes/Hardaway (outgoing for us is actually Bertans/THJ or $34.9mm which can bring back $43.9mm).  Dallas receives Hayward at $31.5mm and we still have $12mm of trade spread left.  If we add McGee or Reggie to the deal (they don't have to go to Charlotte, they just need to go), then you can get to all sorts of additional incoming money.  If Charlotte gets Reggie, for instance, there is room to start PJ at $20mm.  We could actually trade match more than that, but $20mm keeps us under the first apron.  We won't have the MLE any more, but we'll be adding Hayward and PJ for THJ/Reggie.

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I like that as a philosophy.  I suspect it will be adopted frequently going forward.  

In the case of Kyrie, declining may be difficult depending on the number you have to hit to retain the MLE.  Flat may be the best you can hope for.  Of course, Kyrie is known for flat, so there is that.

(06-28-2023, 05:09 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: If Skin ends up being right this will be the first time. Cuban fan boy will then blame Mavs fans for whatever happens.

(06-27-2023, 11:24 PM)cow Wrote: You lack the basic understanding of the stages of roster construction, rebuilding, and tweaking.  Being laser focused is foolish as there might not be a good opportunity to upgrade the place of need given a the current assets on a team.   The Mavs roster is in a different phase from Boston's just like it is in a different phase from Utah's so comparing them is foolish.

(06-28-2023, 12:07 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think this is where a lot of folks disagree.  Luka's best position defensively is probably the 4.  Omax can also play the 4.  It would probably be ideal to get another rotational player that can play the 4, but I don't think its as critical as you are making it out to be.  We are probably going to be a little undersized, but we showed two years ago you can still be successful.  I think the team made it clear on draft day that the focus is more long term than it has been in the past.  If that means we go a little small this coming season, then so be it.

(06-28-2023, 08:49 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: So what's your solution to this?  Bruce Brown, lol?

Let's go best care scenario, Gawd owed us a favor.

Lively is Mark Williams. 19mins in 43 games.  0.8k mins.
OMax is Jae Crowder.  17mins in 78 games.  1.3k mins.
Holmes turns back the clock 2 years.  24mins in 45 games.  1.0k mins.

SF: Covered.
PF: OMax 1.3k mins.  50% of Holmes 0.5k mins.  Still need 1.3k minutes.
C: Lively 0.8k mins, 50% of Holmes 0.5k mins.  Still need 2.7k minutes.

(06-28-2023, 08:37 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Never cared much for Skin or his reporting.

(06-28-2023, 09:15 AM)mvossman Wrote: It would be:

PF: Luka/Maxi/OMax/Brown
C:  Holmes/Lively/Maxi/McGee/(possibly Powell)

Holmes would never play PF.  He is strictly a center.  Brown could play some small ball minutes at the 4.  He plays bigger than his size.  Like I said, we are small.  We are basically going to be a center, 3 wings and a guard.

(06-28-2023, 09:28 AM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: His beer sucks too

(06-28-2023, 09:36 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Kyrie asking for extra years almost feels like he is looking for an retirement contract. Given the flight risk and potential for off court issues I would let him walk before I offer a 4-5 year deal but I guess the Mavs are past the point of no return and Kyrie dictates the terms.

Quote:Brown at PF???  Are you being served?

(06-27-2023, 09:59 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I think Tari Eason would be a perfect fit here.  Unfortunately, he is not available.  

Unless the Clippers decide to blow it up, Zubac isn't available either.  

Zach Collins would be fine as well.  He probably is available.  I think he is just good enough to require an asset to acquire though.  I don't think he's good enough to justify sending our 2027 pick out.  We don't have any 2nd-round picks to trade.  I don't see how we can acquire him.  I think the same about Daniel Gafford-  would be a good fit but we don't have the means to obtain him.

(06-28-2023, 09:46 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Take a look at Nets lineups that featured Brown. On offense he basically was a small ball big. Screener and rim roller. On defense he guarded bigger players all the time because Kyrie/Harden/Harris/Curry/Mills couldn´t do it.

https://www.basketballinsiders.com/news/bruce-brown-thriving-as-the-nets-small-ball-center/