(06-23-2023, 10:05 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Yes, barring a trade that gets back one of our 2 picks out there (or someone else’s pick) 27 unprotected is essentially what we have to give a team in trade.

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We’ve now seen 2 instances where Green was requested and denied by us. Looks like they want him here to stay.

(06-23-2023, 10:05 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Yes, barring a trade that gets back one of our 2 picks out there (or someone else’s pick) 27 unprotected is essentially what we have to give a team in trade.

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We’ve now seen 2 instances where Green was requested and denied by us. Looks like they want him here to stay.

(06-23-2023, 09:45 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: After our trade deadline deal players not meshing well last season, I’d prefer getting guys in the training camp to start fresh with eachother. I wouldn’t be careless with the pick but I would shop with using it in mind.

(06-23-2023, 08:46 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Huh?  Of course we do.  MLE, 2025 FRP, 2025 SRP, 2026 FRP, 2027 FRP, 2028 FRP, Green, THJ, Holmes, Bullock, McGee, Wood S&T, Powell S&T.

 

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Don't we have  2025 FRP, 2025 SRP, 2026 FRP, 2027 FRP, 2028 FRP?

(06-23-2023, 10:12 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Sometimes the players just mesh well. We saw that with Dinwiddie when he got here. It can’t be counted on, and I do question if Kyrie is the one that was the bad mesher. I remember a quote from him saying they needed a training camp to get right or something like that.

(06-23-2023, 10:13 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: What were those instances?

IMO, Green ultimately isn't a great fit with Luka/Kyrie given he's much more of a SG than SF.  We have to get more rebounding out of the 3 spot.  Green, Bullock, THJ, etc aren't it.  I would trade Green for Eason in a heartbeat.  We need someone in that mold, someone to fit that swing of SF/PF need before OMax is ready.

(06-23-2023, 10:13 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: What were those instances?

IMO, Green ultimately isn't a great fit with Luka/Kyrie given he's much more of a SG than SF.  We have to get more rebounding out of the 3 spot.  Green, Bullock, THJ, etc aren't it.  I would trade Green for Eason in a heartbeat.  We need someone in that mold, someone to fit that swing of SF/PF need before OMax is ready.

(06-23-2023, 10:20 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: In the Kyrie trade Bkn wanted Green and we wouldn’t add him. In the Alt trade proposal, Atl wanted Green and that’s why we don’t have Capela right now, pretty much.

(06-23-2023, 10:31 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Also, as far as Green, Luka doesn’t guard guards on defense and we don’t have a point of attack (POA) defender. This is Green’s job to lose IMO. Just because they aren’t including him in trades now, doesn’t mean at the TDL they won’t. I think that becomes a possibility if he is shown to not be that POA defender we need. Until then, I think they are bought into him.

I am with you on Eason, I would like to figure out a trade to get him, but it also sounds like Hou likes him too. Their trade down names being floated were Kenyon Martin Jr and Jae’sean Tate.

(06-23-2023, 10:41 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Gotcha.  Yes, Luka is best guarding SF/PFs.  If he could ever stay healthy, Maxi is an excellent POA.  I would like someone much longer than Green in that role.

Ah.  I thought Eason was buried behind KMJ and Tate.  I would value them in this order: Eason, KMJ, and Tate.  Any of three would give us a player we don't have at this point.

(06-23-2023, 11:21 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I can’t get there with you on KMJ, but Tate and Eason? You bet!

(06-23-2023, 10:15 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Right now, the only first we can trade is 2027.  Our 2025 is tied up until 2024 conveys to NY (presumably).  2026 can't be traded until 2025 clears.  2028 can't be traded because we gave 2029 to Brooklyn.  2025 2nd is also tied up in the pick we owe NY.

I think the way to look at this is after next year's draft we project to have 2025 and 2027 firsts and a 2025 second to work with.  We will also (presumably) have THJ, Holmes and McGee on expiring deals that summer.  If it were me, I'd shoot for some more improvement at the margins this summer and take the big swing next summer.

(06-23-2023, 11:48 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: One thing I'm curious about is the remaining TPE.  I know that this asset can not be paired with any player's contract on the roster in a trade but curious if anything has changed with the new CBA in terms of pairing it with other assets.   

(06-23-2023, 12:12 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Long answer, the deal isn't closed yet.  So, technically we don't yet have a TE.  We have Bertans outgoing and Holmes incoming.  We can do anything else within the new 23/24 rules that we want until the deal closes.  So, if you want to add Reggie (for instance) to the Bertans outgoing and bring back something else....you can.

(06-23-2023, 10:17 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Brad Townsend
@townbrad
“We’re not done at all. This is just the beginning.” — Nico Harrison


At least they seem to know the current roster is still not close.

(06-23-2023, 11:48 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: We will also have 2031 FRP (and SRP?) as well.

One thing I'm curious about is the remaining TPE.  I know that this asset can not be paired with any player's contract on the roster in a trade but curious if anything has changed with the new CBA in terms of pairing it with other assets.  My understanding is that you can now trade other exceptions like the MLE and BAE...

(06-23-2023, 01:19 PM)F Gump Wrote: One possible route is to just fill in the open slots with free agents, in whatever way the CBA allows.

The current roster is
C - Holmes, Lively, McGee
PF - Maxi, Prosper
SF - Luka, THJ
SG - Green, Bullock
PG - Kyrie, Hardy

Assuming Kyrie at the same salary as Luka (a bit over 40M), and a cap that lands at the highest possible number ($136,0210,000 - a hair over the 136M just projected), we can calculate where the tax line will likely land, and also the other numbers like MLEs, BAE, minimums, rookie scale. The exact numbers get announced in early July, and some may be rounded (which is NBA's pattern).

But using the likely numbers, and assuming Mavs sign 14 (the minimum) rather than 15, the Mavs have 3 players left to sign, with the following money available:

NonTxMLE  approx  12.405M
1 One-Year Veteran Minimum  approx  2.0197M
BAE (maybe just missing a sliver)  4.515M  (Mavs may not quite have enough for all of this, or want to leave a bit of a cushion)

How would they fill in those blanks? Who might they target with MLE, BAE, minimum?

Of course, if they make a trade, the totals change, so these calculations may become irrelevant, and it may also change the number of slots being filled.

Or if they decide they want 15 players, then the BAE gets scrapped and they land at 171.5M with a small cushion under the 172M-or-so hard cap. In which case, it's MLE, minimum, minimum, minimum.

Or if some team wants Wood in a snt, then the player(s) in return will use that money and fill in those 3 slots to some degree.

(06-23-2023, 01:40 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Unless a Wood SNT is involved with deal for a defensive and rebounding big, we need his rebounding and him as a third scorer.