(06-23-2023, 06:47 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: You also get Gafford, who is just 24 years old. You basically set at C for the next five year paying 17M to Gafford/Lively. Kuzma is a good scorer and passer, which we lack in the front court with Wood gone. i´m not that attached to Kuzma. I want Gafford. He seems the perfect Hayward to Lively´s Tyson.

Also watching more highlights of Lively. He ain´t no WCS. The way I see it, I´d probably have taken Lively at #10 too, when Hendricks was gone. I think his ceiling is not as high as the Mavs might believe with the shooting hype. I think his ceiling is Jarrett Allen. Here is the catch. I think his floor is also Jarrett Allen. You just picked up Jarrett Allen for $4M/year.

Luka throwing lob passes to Mr. Fantastic with 7´7 wingspan instead of T-Rex arms Dwight. Show me the money. He´ll also get a lot of putbacks on offensive rebounds. He also runs the floor well. He moves his feet well. Excellent fluidity. Motor seems fine.

(06-23-2023, 07:28 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Why you so happy?

(06-23-2023, 07:32 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: That´s what happens, when you don´t do dumb sh*t, Mark. You should try it more often.

Also think a lot of what the Mavs do next depends on Portland. If they trade Lillard, I think Grant becomes the #1 target with that 2027 1st round pick.

(06-23-2023, 06:37 AM)Dundalis Wrote: Don't really like Kyle Kuzma. He's a volume low efficiency scorer who doesn't play much of any defense. Career 33% from 3, and never been above 55% TS. Why exactly do we need this on our team? I don't want someone who's a literal ball hog jacking up low efficiency shots who doesn't even really help the team on defense. He's actually exactly the type of player this team doesn't need. Ideally he goes back to the lower usage player he was his last year in LA, but that player isn't worth giving that much up for, and again, no defense. Useless addition imo, that might even be a hindrance offensively to the development of a Green or Hardy who can actually knock down shots at a much better clip than he can.

(06-23-2023, 08:25 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Kuzma does play defense, or did last year.  He's slightly above average for a SF/PF.  I do agree with your sentiment.  With Luka/Kyrie as our nucleus, we need to target players like Zubac, Z.Collins, Naz Reid, J.Allen.

(06-23-2023, 08:31 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Zubac, Collins, Reid, and Allen. What are you offering for them? You don't have assets.

(06-23-2023, 08:31 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Zubac, Collins, Reid, and Allen. What are you offering for them? You don't have assets.

(06-23-2023, 08:37 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Still have the 27 unprotected.

(06-23-2023, 09:02 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think PF needs to be the position we have to address, at least short term. I don't see many guys who interest me who would be really good MLE targets.  Maybe a few of them if their market was squeezed but I generally few most of these guys over MLE.  So maybe it is a trade. 

Ideally I would like to keep our future first for later once we see how the roster fits.  Maybe use it at the trade deadline or next year.  Unless I found an opp that I couldn't pass on.

(06-23-2023, 08:46 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Don't we have  2025 FRP, 2025 SRP, 2026 FRP, 2027 FRP, 2028 FRP?

(06-23-2023, 08:46 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Huh?  Of course we do.  MLE, 2025 FRP, 2025 SRP, 2026 FRP, 2027 FRP, 2028 FRP, Green, THJ, Holmes, Bullock, McGee, Wood S&T, Powell S&T.

Ideally, I want Zubac and Z.Collins.  Resign Wood.  Also get a young defensive wing like Tari Eason.

Luka, ???
Kyrie, Hardy
Eason, OMax
Z.Collins, Wood
Zubac, Lively

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Don't we have  2025 FRP, 2025 SRP, 2026 FRP, 2027 FRP, 2028 FRP?

(06-23-2023, 09:06 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: If you end up holding on to it all year then you can pair it with 2031 as well if you really want to beef up a trade offer.

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Have you spent all summer under the impression we have up to 4 first round picks to trade? You may want to brush up on the Stepien Rule.

(06-23-2023, 09:08 AM)Dirknows Wrote: Wood is not coming back here after how he was used.

(06-23-2023, 09:25 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Or you can answer my question????

(06-23-2023, 09:30 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: You can’t have consecutive years out into the future without a FRP. Because of the protection on the pick we owe the Knicks it means it could technically end up conveying in 2024 or 2025 so both those picks are off limits and because you need to have a FRP available every other year it makes 2026 off limits. Because we traded 2029 for Kyrie it means 2028 and 2030 are off limits. 

Probably should have been a little more diplomatic about calling you out but you post a ton and the state of our assets has been spoken about nonstop. It’s essentially at the foundation of every conversation we have here.

(06-23-2023, 09:02 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think PF needs to be the position we have to address, at least short term. I don't see many guys who interest me who would be really good MLE targets.  Maybe a few of them if their market was squeezed but I generally few most of these guys over MLE.  So maybe it is a trade. 

Ideally I would like to keep our future first for later once we see how the roster fits.  Maybe use it at the trade deadline or next year.  Unless I found an opp that I couldn't pass on.

(06-23-2023, 09:30 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: You can’t have consecutive years out into the future without a FRP. Because of the protection on the pick we owe the Knicks it means it could technically end up conveying in 2024 or 2025 so both those picks are off limits and because you need to have a FRP available every other year it makes 2026 off limits. Because we traded 2029 for Kyrie it means 2028 and 2030 are off limits. 

Probably should have been a little more diplomatic about calling you out but you post a ton and the state of our assets has been spoken about nonstop. It’s essentially at the foundation of every conversation we have here.

(06-23-2023, 10:03 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: This is the first time I listed picks as assets and immediately asked the question.  Not sure if it's possible to be more diplomatic in my assertion.

So we only have 2027, right?

(06-23-2023, 09:45 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: After our trade deadline deal players not meshing well last season, I’d prefer getting guys in the training camp to start fresh with eachother. I wouldn’t be careless with the pick but I would shop with using it in mind.

(06-23-2023, 10:07 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Spot on.  Huge trade deadline turnover shoots that year's load of going far.  I was shocked at how far LAL went this year with so much turnover.

(06-23-2023, 10:05 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: We’ve now seen 2 instances where Green was requested and denied by us. Looks like they want him here to stay.