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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future - SleepingHero - 06-22-2023
The Rockets are going to be a “real threat” to sign Brook Lopez away from the Bucks in free agency, per @wojespn.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Jason Terry - 06-22-2023
Kevin Love would fit like a glove
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Jym - 06-22-2023
I'm sure no one wants to hear it, but Barnes would be a great use of the MLE
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - DanSchwartzgan - 06-22-2023
We finally got a TCU guy. Mike Miles on a 2-way
What about PJ Washington with the drafting of Leonard Miller and possible return of Miles Bridges.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - cow - 06-22-2023
(06-22-2023, 11:48 PM)Jym Wrote: I'm sure no one wants to hear it, but Barnes would be a great use of the MLE
Not sure he's worth that but his playoff run was rough.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-22-2023
Can we get Reid with the MLE?
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Jason Terry - 06-23-2023
Miles and ricky council are who I’m looking at. Let’s go mavs
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - SleepingHero - 06-23-2023
(06-22-2023, 11:40 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Kevin Love would fit like a glove
He really would in terms of vet leadership and floor spacing. But for the MLE? I'm not too sure. Perhaps at the BAE...
He just took a vet min deal. BAE would be about 2x that.
Jason Terry - Jason Terry - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 12:03 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: He really would in terms of vet leadership and floor spacing. But for the MLE? I'm not too sure. Perhaps at the BAE...Love, Crowder, Hayes, Thybulle for the BAE
He just took a vet min deal. BAE would be about 2x that.
Reid, Williams, Barnes, Brown for the full MLE
Really load up on depth
RE: Jason Terry - SleepingHero - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 12:09 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Love, Crowder, Hayes, Thybulle for the BAE
Reid, Williams, Barnes, Brown for the full MLE
Really load up on depth
My preference in order:
BAE
1. Thybulle
2. Love
3. Crowder
4. Hayes
MLE
1. Brown
2. Williams
Massive drop
3. Barnes
4. Reid
Should everything work out and the Mavs have a dream summer of epic proportions the likes of which would never feasibly happen, roster could look something like:
Luka/Kyrie
Steph/Dame
Tatum/Lebron
Giannis/Kawhi
Jokic/Embiid
But in an even more unrealistic scenario could look something like:
Luka/Hardy
Kyrie/Green/Pinson
Brown/THJ/Bullock
Maxi/Thybulle/OMP
Holmes/Lively/McGee
Solid 14 man roster.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - cow - 06-23-2023
Love and Cuban are drinking buddies and I know he got playoff minutes but he seems super washed. I wouldn't offer up more than a 1YR vet minimum and only after I'd run out of other options.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - SleepingHero - 06-23-2023
Nico Harrison: “We’re not done at all, this is just the beginning. We’re still gonna continue to address all of our needs.”
https://twitter.com/sixfivelando/status/1672113129478660096?s=20
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-23-2023
Who plays the 4?
Barnes? McDaniels? GWilliams? Reid?
My money is on Kuzma.
THJ+McGee+2027 pick.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Mavs2021 - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 12:49 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Who plays the 4?
Barnes? McDaniels? GWilliams? Reid?
My money is on Kuzma.
THJ+McGee+2027 pick.
Mine, too. I´m thinking Gafford + Kuzma +Morris for THJ + Bullock + McGee + 2027 unprotected 1st. That would be the pipedream. Washington is in full re-build mode, so they have limited use for Morris. Kuzma is an UFA. Gafford might be the problem, but an unprotected 1st is not nothing to them.
There is definitely a trade here for the Mavs with the Wizards. They want picks. They don´t care about bad salaries.
172 is the first apron.
Doncic 40 / Morris 10 / Vet Min 2
Irving 40 / Hardy 2 / Vet Min 2
Green 5 / OMP 2 / Vet Min 2
Kuzma 20 / MLE 12 / BAE 5
Gafford 12 / Holmes 14 / Lively 4
_________
172.
Bam. Right on the money.
EDIT: Ah too much for the full MLE and BAE. Well replace Morris with Gallinari and you get there. Probably also a lot more realistic trade, so....
That would be an amazing summer.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Dundalis - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 05:49 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Mine, too. I´m thinking Gafford + Kuzma +Morris for THJ + Bullock + McGee + 2027 unprotected 1st. That would be the pipedream. Washington is in full re-build mode, so they have limited use for Morris. Kuzma is an UFA. Gafford might be the problem, but an unprotected 1st is not nothing to them.
There is definitely a trade here for the Mavs with the Wizards. They want picks. They don´t care about bad salaries.
172 is the first apron.
Doncic 40 / Morris 10 / Vet Min 2
Irving 40 / Hardy 2 / Vet Min 2
Green 5 / OMP 2 / Vet Min 2
Kuzma 20 / MLE 12 / BAE 5
Gafford 12 / Holmes 14 / Lively 4
_________
172.
Bam. Right on the money.
EDIT: Ah too much for the full MLE and BAE. Well replace Morris with Gallinari and you get there. Probably also a lot more realistic trade, so....
That would be an amazing summer.
Don't really like Kyle Kuzma. He's a volume low efficiency scorer who doesn't play much of any defense. Career 33% from 3, and never been above 55% TS. Why exactly do we need this on our team? I don't want someone who's a literal ball hog jacking up low efficiency shots who doesn't even really help the team on defense. He's actually exactly the type of player this team doesn't need. Ideally he goes back to the lower usage player he was his last year in LA, but that player isn't worth giving that much up for, and again, no defense. Useless addition imo, that might even be a hindrance offensively to the development of a Green or Hardy who can actually knock down shots at a much better clip than he can.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - ItsGoTime - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 05:49 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Mine, too. I´m thinking Gafford + Kuzma +Morris for THJ + Bullock + McGee + 2027 unprotected 1st. That would be the pipedream. Washington is in full re-build mode, so they have limited use for Morris. Kuzma is an UFA. Gafford might be the problem, but an unprotected 1st is not nothing to them.Where did Maxi go?
There is definitely a trade here for the Mavs with the Wizards. They want picks. They don´t care about bad salaries.
172 is the first apron.
Doncic 40 / Morris 10 / Vet Min 2
Irving 40 / Hardy 2 / Vet Min 2
Green 5 / OMP 2 / Vet Min 2
Kuzma 20 / MLE 12 / BAE 5
Gafford 12 / Holmes 14 / Lively 4
_________
172.
Bam. Right on the money.
EDIT: Ah too much for the full MLE and BAE. Well replace Morris with Gallinari and you get there. Probably also a lot more realistic trade, so....
That would be an amazing summer.
I really hope we don’t get Kuzma. I’d honestly rather replace him with Avdija.
One of the vet mins is probably Pinson and the PF BAE spot is probably Morris at vet min.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Mavs2021 - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 06:37 AM)Dundalis Wrote: No way in hell would I give an unprotected first for Kyle Kuzma. Why do people think he's good? He's a volume low efficiency scorer who doesn't play much of any defense. Career 33% from 3, and never been above 55% TS. Why exactly do we need this on our team? I don't want someone who's a literal ball hog jacking up low efficiency shots who doesn't even really help the team on defense. He's actually exactly the type of player this team doesn't need.
You also get Gafford, who is just 24 years old. You basically set at C for the next five year paying 17M to Gafford/Lively. Kuzma is a good scorer and passer, which we lack in the front court with Wood gone. i´m not that attached to Kuzma. I want Gafford. He seems the perfect Hayward to Lively´s Tyson.
Also watching more highlights of Lively. He ain´t no WCS. The way I see it, I´d probably have taken Lively at #10 too, when Hendricks was gone. I think his ceiling is not as high as the Mavs might believe with the shooting hype. I think his ceiling is Jarrett Allen. Here is the catch. I think his floor is also Jarrett Allen. You just picked up Jarrett Allen for $4M/year.
Luka throwing lob passes to Mr. Fantastic with 7´7 wingspan instead of T-Rex arms Dwight. Show me the money. He´ll also get a lot of putbacks on offensive rebounds. He also runs the floor well. He moves his feet well. Excellent fluidity. Motor seems fine.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Knicks-Clips discuss PG| - HoosierDaddyKid - 06-23-2023
(06-22-2023, 04:21 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Completely agree. Flashy white players have a tendency to be WAY overrated. Brent Barry comes to mind. White Chocolate. Chase Budinger.
IMO, if I'm Miami, I'm selling on Herro high.
Horrible take...
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Mavs2021 - 06-23-2023
(06-23-2023, 06:44 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Where did Maxi go? I really hope we don’t get Kuzma. I’d honestly rather replace him with Avdija.
I even forget Maxi. I´m not used to remember more than 4-5 good players on the Mavs roster at the same time.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Dame will take the week to think abt future| HOU likes Lopez - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 06-23-2023
So basically, the small 5s, the 4s and bigger 3s that could be available are:
Barnes, McDaniels, GWilliams, Reid, and Jerami Grant (who I missed on my previous post).
Among this group, I'd like Grant the most.
But is he a realistic option? I dunno'
Barnes and GWilliams are underwhelming choices.
McDaniels could come cheap, but unlike Jerami Grant who happens to be a poor rebounder too, McDaniels isn't a player you'd depend on to score or lock someone up.
In Kuzma:
* you get someone who rebounds at a decent rate
* can play both forwards spots (Mavs can chose who to start at the other -- Reggie or Maxi).
* none of the Mavs front court players from recent years had the ability to handle the ball and play make, Kuzma makes sure the Mavs have at least 2 guys on the floor who can dribble and dish.
* THJ was/still is a chucker and doesn't do anything but shoot 3s. And he's the 3rd option on this team on offense. I wouldn't advocate for Kuzma unless a trade happens that gets THJ out
* In theory the floor opens up for Kuzma's drives and his shooting would improve because of Luka and Kyrie's gravity.
Basically, Kuzma replaces THJ as the 3rd option, an option who can dribble drive and not just shoot 3s. A player who can play either forward spots, and also act as a point forward ensuring at least 2 playmakers on the floor at the same time. He isn't good in defense, but not as bad as some of you guys are picturing him out to be. He isn't even THJ bad, who's the player I would like him to replace.