(01-08-2020, 08:54 PM)Dirkster21 Wrote:

(01-08-2020, 06:53 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote:

(01-08-2020, 06:44 PM)cow Wrote:

(01-08-2020, 04:06 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote:

(01-08-2020, 03:14 PM)cow Wrote: Good points.  If you are concerned about this season and are only making one move, RoCo probably makes the team better.  Bogdan is more of a long term play.  I don't think this is a championship team this year which is why I lean Bogdan.

We don't have to be a championship team to bring in the better right now player. He's better for now and long term, because he is one of the best non-superstar two way players in the league on a great contract. If we were actually able to get either, there's no way I'm complaining, I just think the biggest need for this team, right now, is defense, and it's not even close.

(01-08-2020, 03:13 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Bottom line, they play the same role.

On offense, pretty much correct, with RoCo a little more versatile. You however, don't need to hide either one on offense and they do multiple things well enough to not make themselves liabilities on that end. Don't see what you're saying about how it "has" to be. 

On defense you're also correct, which is amazingly awesome to have 2 high end defenders that can defend positions 1-(many) 4. Again, not arguing about not liking Bog, just see RoCo as the better fit now and going forward.

I'd be ecstatic with either but in a game of either/or, I'd go Bogdan over RoCo.

Can’t fault you for that cause to me it is pretty close. Either would be huge for this team.

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I’m new to this. Don’t know how to use this site yet. What do y’all think about Mitchell Robinson? Or maybe someone like Bamba or Isaac? They are young. Wonder what it would take to trade for them?

(01-08-2020, 08:54 PM)Dirkster21 Wrote: I’m new to this. Don’t know how to use this site yet. What do y’all think about Mitchell Robinson? Or maybe someone like Bamba or Isaac? They are young. Wonder what it would take to trade for them?

(01-09-2020, 01:18 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote:

(01-08-2020, 08:54 PM)Dirkster21 Wrote: I’m new to this. Don’t know how to use this site yet. What do y’all think about Mitchell Robinson? Or maybe someone like Bamba or Isaac? They are young. Wonder what it would take to trade for them?

Welcome to the board! Keep plugging at it, you'll get it down. 

As far as your questions. I think NY is looking to add to Robinson, not give up on him. He has a ton of value in that regard and would take quite a bit of currently lopsided value to pry him away, IMO. Isaac is the same way. 

Bamba on the other hand is sitting behind Vucevic, but I think the minutes he's currently getting is about right for his current game. I don't think he's a guy that if you throw more time at him that he gets better. In that sense, it would be good for ORL to keep developing him until he has the "click" moment and then decide if they want to move Bamba or Vucevic (at that point with Isaac being so young as well, the better choice would be Vuc). 

I imagine they would probably forego that if the offer was something similar to the Robinson/Isaac thought. The only way this isn't the case IMO is if they don't see improvement on his game (this is in the sense of year over year, not game over game), that's when they sell him for as much as they can IMO, as long as he's still relatively young and on a lower contract.

(01-09-2020, 01:51 PM)Dirkster21 Wrote:

(01-09-2020, 01:18 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote:

(01-08-2020, 08:54 PM)Dirkster21 Wrote: I’m new to this. Don’t know how to use this site yet. What do y’all think about Mitchell Robinson? Or maybe someone like Bamba or Isaac? They are young. Wonder what it would take to trade for them?

Welcome to the board! Keep plugging at it, you'll get it down. 

As far as your questions. I think NY is looking to add to Robinson, not give up on him. He has a ton of value in that regard and would take quite a bit of currently lopsided value to pry him away, IMO. Isaac is the same way. 

Bamba on the other hand is sitting behind Vucevic, but I think the minutes he's currently getting is about right for his current game. I don't think he's a guy that if you throw more time at him that he gets better. In that sense, it would be good for ORL to keep developing him until he has the "click" moment and then decide if they want to move Bamba or Vucevic (at that point with Isaac being so young as well, the better choice would be Vuc). 

I imagine they would probably forego that if the offer was something similar to the Robinson/Isaac thought. The only way this isn't the case IMO is if they don't see improvement on his game (this is in the sense of year over year, not game over game), that's when they sell him for as much as they can IMO, as long as he's still relatively young and on a lower contract.

(01-09-2020, 02:04 PM)JamesConway Wrote: Dario Saric would be a good pickup. Could help limited the workload on KP as a stretch PF while also being playable alongside Kristaps in certain matchups. He bounced around a few teams and it doesn't look like he's a keeper in PHX. Still only 25 and about to become an RFA iirc.

Him and Malik Beasley are two buy low-candidates I'd be interested.

(01-09-2020, 04:37 PM)matt6715 Wrote: no disrespect to Boban

(01-10-2020, 01:03 AM)Jym Wrote:

(01-09-2020, 04:37 PM)matt6715 Wrote: no disrespect to Boban

Nah full disrespect to him. Or at least Rick and Donnie. Is there no communication on these moves? We have to know who Rick will and won't play. In that circumstance, against that team Boban either has to play or you immediately trade for someone over 6'10" with some mass who will.

(01-10-2020, 12:45 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: DAL: Covington
MIN: Wright, Jackson, 2020 GSW 2nd, 2020 UTA 2nd.

Is that enough? Is that better than Kuzma + fillers? Would a team like HOU offer a 1st for him? 76ers has four 2nd rounders in this draft to throw (Most notably NYK and ATL).

(01-10-2020, 12:51 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I forgot about Wright, that does make a lot of sense as he gives you defense, playmaking, is younger and is also on a very good contract. I think that trade would make sense for both teams.

(01-10-2020, 03:04 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote:

(01-10-2020, 12:51 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I forgot about Wright, that does make a lot of sense as he gives you defense, playmaking, is younger and is also on a very good contract. I think that trade would make sense for both teams.

I"ve put Wright in quite a few trades, even before the article with him saying he wants to start. I think separating JB and DW would do wonders for both of their careers, and open up the ability to play taller/bigger players on up the totempole for our team's bench unit. I think I may have proposed this exact deal, and a deal with Dieng for Lee in it to add value too.

(01-10-2020, 12:29 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I worry ab the Lakers getting Covington or Iguodala. At least Iguodala is older and perhaps washed up or closer to being washed up. Lakers are still sitting on Kuzma as a valuable asset that doesn't help them win really. If they flip him for a 3D player that's going to be massive for them.

(01-11-2020, 03:42 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: So we are back to the summer discussion about Kemba Walker and the fact that this team needs a 3rd star player to carry a heavy workload and cover for the Porzingis injury/rest periods.

Furthermore they screwed up with the re-signing of Powell and the signing of Boban. Those two are just too much of niche players to cover Porzingis for extended minutes on either end of the floor. If you gave that money to somebody like Favors (his own injury history aside) you´d at least be well protected on the defensive end (in the absence of Porzingis).

Once they committed to Porzingis they should have had a very detailed plan on how to cover for those Porzingis rest periods. If they really thought he could go 100 games every year (regular season, play-offs, Latvian national team) they are fools.