(08-14-2020, 03:13 PM)omahen Wrote: CP3, Conley, Love, perhaps Griffin or Wiggins, Porter, DeRozan, Hield.

(08-14-2020, 01:50 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Damn. Horford´s contract runs till 2023 (with a buyout option of 14.5M for the last season).

Given their cap mess, I think they´d actually do Powell, Wright and Jackson.

(08-14-2020, 05:53 PM)Tyler Wrote: One darkhorse deal I'm keeping an eye on is what the Pelicans plan to do with Lonzo Ball. He played well for a while and improved his 3-point shot, but it seems like he might be on the outs for them long-term and he's coming up on his last season before RFA status. I think a properly coached Ball could be exactly the type of backcourt defender and secondary playmaker who would look really good next to Luka. Wright + #18 probably isn't enough, but it's something to watch.

(08-14-2020, 06:25 PM)StepBackJay Wrote:

(08-14-2020, 01:50 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Damn. Horford´s contract runs till 2023 (with a buyout option of 14.5M for the last season).

Given their cap mess, I think they´d actually do Powell, Wright and Jackson.

I don't think the length would be a problem for the Mavs. Two issues would be 1 - additional 7 mil or so on the cap in 21 which is a big FA year for the Mav 2 - I doubt the Mavs value Horford that much.

(08-14-2020, 07:19 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote:

(08-14-2020, 05:53 PM)Tyler Wrote: One darkhorse deal I'm keeping an eye on is what the Pelicans plan to do with Lonzo Ball. He played well for a while and improved his 3-point shot, but it seems like he might be on the outs for them long-term and he's coming up on his last season before RFA status. I think a properly coached Ball could be exactly the type of backcourt defender and secondary playmaker who would look really good next to Luka. Wright + #18 probably isn't enough, but it's something to watch.

I haven't given Ball a moments thought, nor have I watched him at all this season.  I'm a bit surprised how he's transitioned his game.

No idea what is fair, but they have a LOT of mouths to feed.  Ingram will be near max, Zion will get there and Holiday is highly paid.  Favors is also important to them and will probably require something just north of the MLE as they can't afford to try life without him.  He has the teams best on minus off rating.

So, your theory is they have to offload now rather than losing him for nothing in 2021?.  Calculating value is a challenge.  He's a big name because of his draft position.  But, some advanced stats are good and some aren't.  PER is 13, TS% is .517 and WS/48 is 0.58.  On the other hand, PIPM and RMP like him.  Could you get there with #18 and Brunson with Jackson as the expiring filler?  I don't think they would value Curry.  Such a deal matches if you wait until the new season year to complete it.  Feels a little light still.

(08-14-2020, 07:45 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote:

(08-14-2020, 07:19 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote:

(08-14-2020, 05:53 PM)Tyler Wrote: One darkhorse deal I'm keeping an eye on is what the Pelicans plan to do with Lonzo Ball. He played well for a while and improved his 3-point shot, but it seems like he might be on the outs for them long-term and he's coming up on his last season before RFA status. I think a properly coached Ball could be exactly the type of backcourt defender and secondary playmaker who would look really good next to Luka. Wright + #18 probably isn't enough, but it's something to watch.

I haven't given Ball a moments thought, nor have I watched him at all this season. I'm a bit surprised how he's transitioned his game.

No idea what is fair, but they have a LOT of mouths to feed. Ingram will be near max, Zion will get there and Holiday is highly paid. Favors is also important to them and will probably require something just north of the MLE as they can't afford to try life without him. He has the teams best on minus off rating.

So, your theory is they have to offload now rather than losing him for nothing in 2021?. Calculating value is a challenge. He's a big name because of his draft position. But, some advanced stats are good and some aren't. PER is 13, TS% is .517 and WS/48 is 0.58. On the other hand, PIPM and RMP like him. Could you get there with #18 and Brunson with Jackson as the expiring filler? I don't think they would value Curry. Such a deal matches if you wait until the new season year to complete it. Feels a little light still.

Don´t think that they will resign Favors. At least not for a lot of money. Simply not a good fit next to Zion. He is a great player and one of the best defensive bigs in the league but they need a stretch big next to Zion. Favors missed a lot of games early in the season and when Zion returned as well no one realized that Favors had a way bigger on court impact. At +9.0 he leads them in on/off and ranks 2nd behind Zion in on court rating at +4.5.
Favors single handedly turned a bottom 10 defense into a top 10 defense. The Pelicans started the season 6-22. With a healthy Favors they they had a 22-14 record in the remaining games before the corona break.
Would be a great fit on the Mavs but at this point I have given up hope when it comes to Favors in a Mavs jersey. Mavs had multiple opportunities to sign him but they never showed any interest.

(08-14-2020, 06:06 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Sac - you got me here, only because of Divac, other than that, any other GM that has that team is questioning why Phi is calling them about Horford, they would say, call me back when Embiid or Simmons is your starting package, better yet, I'll call you when that is the case

(08-14-2020, 07:19 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: I haven't given Ball a moments thought, nor have I watched him at all this season.  I'm a bit surprised how he's transitioned his game.

No idea what is fair, but they have a LOT of mouths to feed.  Ingram will be near max, Zion will get there and Holiday is highly paid.  Favors is also important to them and will probably require something just north of the MLE as they can't afford to try life without him.  He has the teams best on minus off rating.

So, your theory is they have to offload now rather than losing him for nothing in 2021?.  Calculating value is a challenge.  He's a big name because of his draft position.  But, some advanced stats are good and some aren't.  PER is 13, TS% is .517 and WS/48 is 0.58.  On the other hand, PIPM and RMP like him.  Could you get there with #18 and Brunson with Jackson as the expiring filler?  I don't think they would value Curry.  Such a deal matches if you wait until the new season year to complete it.  Feels a little light still.

(08-14-2020, 10:49 PM)Tyler Wrote: I see him as a much more talented version of what Dallas hoped to get with Wright.

(08-15-2020, 01:25 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Forget Ball. No interest. He blows. Wouldn’t give up two players, each who are comparable, for him. You just have to put the draft position out of your mind. It’s irrelevant. And he’d be a terrible backcourt partner with Luka. That guy needs to be deadly.

(08-14-2020, 07:45 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Don´t think that they will resign Favors. At least not for a lot of money. Simply not a good fit next to Zion. He is a great player and one of the best defensive bigs in the league but they need a stretch big next to Zion.  

(08-07-2020, 10:33 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote:

(08-07-2020, 08:50 AM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1291724102860967937?s=20

There were reports about DAL being interested 1-2 weeks ago.

If those numbers are accurate, he´d have to pay €5.2M out of his own pockets. How much are teams willing to pay for (best case) 29 year old JJB? 

Prime JJ himself never earned more than $4.5M a year. That will require a lot of mental gymnastics to make that a realistic financial scenario.

Our core is

Doncic/Brunson
X/Curry
DFS/X
X/Kleber
Porzingis/X

There is no point paying the 3rd string PG more than the minimum, unless he´s a stud defender that can play along-side Doncic. 

First job is to find takers for Powell and/or Wright. Let THJ, Jackson and Boban expire.

(08-15-2020, 01:53 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote:

(08-15-2020, 01:25 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Forget Ball. No interest. He blows. Wouldn’t give up two players, each who are comparable, for him. You just have to put the draft position out of your mind. It’s irrelevant. And he’d be a terrible backcourt partner with Luka.  That guy needs to be deadly.

A guard next to Luka who could 1) guard point guards exceptionally well, 2) hit the 3 at a high clip, and 3) quarterback with not much letdown when Luka was off the court would be a top 20 player in the NBA. If we're going to be that picky about it and insist that that guy be a ten out of ten in all three areas, we'll be waiting quite a while. Unless we can pry CP3 away from the Thunder, and who knows how much longer he'll be worth a damn.

(08-15-2020, 03:46 AM)omahen Wrote: Let's assume Sacramento will be cleaning house after Vlade. How about:

Sac: THJ, Brunson, Wright (or JJ), #18

Dal: Hield, Bagley

Sacramento replaces expensive, overpaid and unhappy Hield with expiring THJ, gets a cheap back up PG that knows how to play and a pick. This creates options for them in 2021. Final piece is a salary filler. Dallas gets even better shooter than THJ and all the Bagley potential, if he can remain healthy.

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Another Sacramento sense Vlade option. Assuming Bogdan is Vlade guy and they prefer Hield now, would they really still want to resign Bogi "no matter what"? #18 seems like fair reward for a SnT, but we need to send salary their way. Wright would be an option, but they already have an overpaid back up PG. They could immediately fire Vlade replacement if he takes Powell. I am not willing to include THJ or Curry in this deal.

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Boy Sacramento has a lot of bad contracts  

THJ and #18 for Joseph and Bagley

(08-15-2020, 03:46 AM)omahen Wrote:

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Boy Sacramento has a lot of bad contracts  

THJ and #18 for Joseph and Bagley

(08-15-2020, 05:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Is there another Sacramento?

(08-15-2020, 05:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: buyout Bjelica

(08-15-2020, 05:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: I´d re-sign Bogdanovic, draft a project  #13 ( I wonder whether Vlade has intel on the bad smoking habits of Pokusevski´s grandma), buyout Bjelica and Joseph and throw the max at Gobert in 2021. He´d change everything for them.

(08-15-2020, 06:07 AM)Barnes 2omahen Wrote:

(08-15-2020, 05:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Is there another Sacramento?

First three on your list are very bad contracts. Hield is overpayed, his contract is like THJ, only he has all 4 years left. Barnes contract is a joke, he is a MLE guy. He didn't improve Sacramento at all. Joseph is way overpaid back up PG who can't really shoot. He would be ok for some 6 mil per, 12 mil is way too much. I already wrote how Sacramento is basically at the tax line with this team for years to come (if they resign Bogi and Fox), that can't even come close to make playoffs. And you think their contracts are not bad?

(08-15-2020, 05:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: buyout Bjelica

And then you would buyout one of the rare ok contracts on the team? Plus his contract is not guaranteed anyway. I guess Kings could do worse than Vlade  

(08-15-2020, 05:39 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: I´d re-sign Bogdanovic, draft a project  #13 ( I wonder whether Vlade has intel on the bad smoking habits of Pokusevski´s grandma), buyout Bjelica and Joseph and throw the max at Gobert in 2021. He´d change everything for them.

You are not even close to max spot with these moves. If you give 15 per to Bogi and max (30 per) to Fox, add #13 this year and (lets say) another #13 year after, this team is at 110 mil salary in the summer of 2021 on 7 players (Hield, Fox, Bagley, Barnes, Bogi and 2 rookies). Do you understand now, why these contracts are bad?

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