(02-06-2020, 05:49 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: It's worse watching them do nothing knowing this FO is sitting there acting like it's all about Giannis 2021.  Their continual big fish failures have taught them nothing and they have passed and will continue to pass on moves that could improve the team NOW in favor of chasing the same stupid pipe dream they always chase.

And the worst part is that this big fish plan they can't give up on is the reason they don't have Giannis to begin with.

(02-06-2020, 05:40 PM)Baller AI Wrote: It is okay to mess up, everyone does it, but you have to learn from your mistakes if you want to improve moving forward. I thought the Mavs did that to a certain extent by keeping our young core together; that being said, they seem to really struggle at negotiations and taking what they get. Classic Mavs, passing up great opportunities because of pipedream hopes, and yet again we seem to be doing that. All that aside, none of that has anything to do with the wasting of Lee's expiring and the remaining TPE. There is literally no arguement for them to have wasted it, none whatsoever.

(02-06-2020, 05:20 PM)Baller AI Wrote: The thing is, courtney lee is not an asset to this team based on where we are in the teambuilding phase, unless his expiring was used for a trade to match salary, in addition with our TE. Holding on to him and not using the rest of the TE is a loss for us based on the opportunity cost. Simply put it was bad asset management

(02-06-2020, 05:52 PM)luka_skywalker_77 Wrote: inability to make the deals that the best of the best make on a semi regular basis

(02-06-2020, 05:55 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 05:20 PM)Baller AI Wrote: The thing is, courtney lee is not an asset to this team based on where we are in the teambuilding phase, unless his expiring was used for a trade to match salary, in addition with our TE. Holding on to him and not using the rest of the TE is a loss for us based on the opportunity cost. Simply put it was bad asset management

Trading and free agency aren't like going into a retail store, where you exchange your fungible cash for your choice of items you like and can pay for. 


In a market without much of a medium of exchange, you have to find a situation where the other guy has specific assets that you want, you have specific assets the other guy wants, both of you agree on the value of all the assets, and the deal can be made within the rules. It is an inherently opportunistic business. Teams need to keep assets on hand so they will have something to deal with when opportunities arise. They used the majority of the TPE. They tried to trade Lee, but Memphis wanted Justise Winslow. Sometimes, opportunity knocks, but it doesn't always. 

If I had a coupon to buy rattlesnakes for 50% off, I wouldn't go buy rattlesnakes just because the coupon was expiring today. I would happily let its value expire, because I don't want any rattlesnakes. They just didn't find anything they liked for the price they would have had to pay. I guess the rest of the league wasn't lining up around the block to nab Courtney Lee. Go figure.  

TPEs are very limited and restrictive tools. That's why they're not used very often. 

The fact that something doesn't work out as a best case scenario doesn't mean the decision-making process was bad. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but a proper evaluation of the process isn't totally results-driven.

(02-06-2020, 05:55 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 05:20 PM)Baller AI Wrote: The thing is, courtney lee is not an asset to this team based on where we are in the teambuilding phase, unless his expiring was used for a trade to match salary, in addition with our TE. Holding on to him and not using the rest of the TE is a loss for us based on the opportunity cost. Simply put it was bad asset management

Trading and free agency aren't like going into a retail store, where you exchange your fungible cash for your choice of items you like and can pay for. 


In a market without much of a medium of exchange, you have to find a situation where the other guy has specific assets that you want, you have specific assets the other guy wants, both of you agree on the value of all the assets, and the deal can be made within the rules. It is an inherently opportunistic business. Teams need to keep assets on hand so they will have something to deal with when opportunities arise. They used the majority of the TPE. They tried to trade Lee, but Memphis wanted Justise Winslow. Sometimes, opportunity knocks, but it doesn't always. 

If I had a coupon to buy rattlesnakes for 50% off, I wouldn't go buy rattlesnakes just because the coupon was expiring today. I would happily let its value expire, because I don't want any rattlesnakes. They just didn't find anything they liked for the price they would have had to pay. I guess the rest of the league wasn't lining up around the block to nab Courtney Lee. Go figure.  

TPEs are very limited and restrictive tools. That's why they're not used very often. 

The fact that something doesn't work out as a best case scenario doesn't mean the decision-making process was bad. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but a proper evaluation of the process isn't totally results-driven.

(02-06-2020, 05:49 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: And the worst part is that this big fish plan they can't give up on is the reason they don't have Giannis to begin with.

(02-06-2020, 05:58 PM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1225552890091188231?s=21

(02-06-2020, 05:58 PM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1225552890091188231?s=21

(02-06-2020, 05:58 PM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1225552890091188231?s=21

(02-06-2020, 05:59 PM)Baller AI Wrote: If I had a coupon for 50% off rattlesnakes, and I did not want a rattlesnake. I would still buy the rattlesnakes for 50% off, and then sell them to someone that wants a rattlesnake

(02-06-2020, 06:09 PM)omahen Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 05:58 PM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1225552890091188231?s=21

Left at the altar again. Poor Mavs

(02-06-2020, 06:09 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 05:59 PM)Baller AI Wrote: If I had a coupon for 50% off rattlesnakes, and I did not want a rattlesnake. I would still buy the rattlesnakes for 50% off, and then sell them to someone that wants a rattlesnake

You might be able to unload those rattlesnakes for as much as you paid for them, or you might not. They were on sale for a reason. You might just end up with a bunch of rattlesnakes, when you could have had a nice puppy. 


The point is, it is perfectly legitimate not to buy something you don't want enough to pay whatever the price is. Especially in the case of NBA players. They might turn into a treasure trove, or you might just have a white elephant on your hands. 

I think of Courtney Lee as part of the price of acquiring KP. If we didn't have Lee, we wouldn't have KP. They tried to get something extra for him, but it didn't happen. Still worth it to have KP. Or that's what I say, anyway.

(02-06-2020, 06:20 PM)BasketballJones41 Wrote: I know we’re supposed to be fighting over whether the MBT sucks or not but I have a question. In addition to the buy out market is it possible that the Mavs are still weighing some overseas options? Maybe another hidden gem like Maxi?

(02-06-2020, 02:34 PM)TXBamanut Wrote: So what "IMPORTANT BUSINESS" did Donnie miss the team plane to do?  Take a dump?   Oil change in car?  Oil change in Porzingis' car?

(02-06-2020, 06:22 PM)omahen Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 06:20 PM)BasketballJones41 Wrote: I know we’re supposed to be fighting over whether the MBT sucks or not but I have a question. In addition to the buy out market is it possible that the Mavs are still weighing some overseas options? Maybe another hidden gem like Maxi?

We have no idea what they are thinking, but yes, they can add overseas talent. Do you have another hidden gem?

(02-06-2020, 06:09 PM)mavsluvr Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 05:59 PM)Baller AI Wrote: If I had a coupon for 50% off rattlesnakes, and I did not want a rattlesnake. I would still buy the rattlesnakes for 50% off, and then sell them to someone that wants a rattlesnake

You might be able to unload those rattlesnakes for as much as you paid for them, or you might not. They were on sale for a reason. You might just end up with a bunch of rattlesnakes, when you could have had a nice puppy. 

The point is, it is perfectly legitimate not to buy something you don't want enough to pay whatever the price is. Especially in the case of NBA players. They might turn into a treasure trove, or you might just have a white elephant on your hands. 

I think of Courtney Lee as part of the price of acquiring KP. If we didn't have Lee, we wouldn't have KP. They tried to get something extra for him, but it didn't happen. Still worth it to have KP. Or that's what I say, anyway.

(02-06-2020, 06:25 PM)Baller AI Wrote: I'm still so confused about how the Suns literally paid another team to take on Warren, like wtf were we doing when they were shopping him? I wonder if we even inquired about him.