(05-10-2024, 04:15 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Who won this trade?

(05-10-2024, 01:12 PM)omahen Wrote: Oh, I didn't see the main thing. He is still on the "lets trade Kyrie for Murray" train. Makes zero sense. Kyrie has been phenomenal so far and if the goal is to win now, than trading him is nonsense. If the goal would be to build the team for long term around younger guys, than it would make some sense and cash in on Irvings great season. But, it is not

It will be interesting to observe the offseason related to Irvings new deal. He will be an expiring (he has a player option after next season). Him walking for nothing would be a disaster, but locking him for huge number well into his thirties could also have significant consequences if he starts falling of a cliff. See Beal or even Lillard contracts as an example.

(05-10-2024, 03:32 PM)mvossman Wrote: I have that guy on ignore, but the most hilarious thing about that post is that he has Poku ahead of Maxi on the depth chart.  WTF?

(05-11-2024, 01:29 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: It's not like you're the Albert Einstein of the forum, lol.

Anyway, the point of merely listing Poku ahead in the list is because Kleber can't be trusted to stay healthy. Kleber is a better player at this time, we know that. Anyway, PJ has the PF position locked up. The question I have is, can Poku be that cheap PF who can be available to play some meaningful minutes behind PJ... and who can also space the floor, since the 3 Centers listed there have no range.

(05-11-2024, 06:36 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I like myself a Pokusevski, but I assume the Hornets will just keep him. He still has a non-guaranteed contract for next year.

I have my eyes on Isaac Bonga, whose basketball IQ is a bit questionable, but he can defend 1 through 5 and at 6´8 can play some point forward, too. Just got to have faith in the Lakers ability to draft great and then screw it up. Once upon a time they had Randle, Ingram, Ball, Hart, Zubac, Russell, Mo Wagner and Bonga. Traded them all away. Why should Bonga be the one guy they were right on drafting and wrong on dumping. He´s still only 24 years old. While the Exum play-off experience has been underwhelming, Bonga´d be an interesting choice. He´s a FA this summer.

While I think we should always look around the edges, I´d rather sink all our assets in the 3rd guy now. We can get somebody like Anfernee Simons, that should take highest priority. One more reliable 25 PPG scorer on this team and we are ready. All these "dare them" threes that go to PJ, Exum, Kleber and Green are going to him, he´s going to feast. Six attempts per game (eight over the last three years) on 39% shooting as a #1 option. And always healthy. Plus he´s Josh Green fast with the ball. That´s the dream, folks. 

(05-11-2024, 09:46 AM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Would love Simons here but good health is not his strong suit. I wonder if Sexton could bring 3/4 of what Simons does, only cheaper to trade for.

(05-11-2024, 02:35 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Who won this trade?

(05-11-2024, 06:21 PM)omahen Wrote: Not sure what are you getting at with these questions. That breaking a bank for a star isn't a viable strategy? Teams were definitely on different timelines. Clippers wanting to win now built what it looked like a perfectly constructed team full of two way wings in their prime. But, they were never able to finish a season healthy in I don't know how many seasons now. It is difficult to win a title. I think they were far better positioned to win a title with George than they would be with SGA in the first three seasons after the trade. All teams go all in at some point when they feel they can contend and only one wins every season.

Lakers paid a fortune for A.Davis. Who won that trade? They won the title with him, so I think it paid off. If they wouldn't, I guess it would be a next trade on your question list Milwaukee paid 3 first rounders and more for JRue. Who won that trade?

(05-11-2024, 06:21 PM)omahen Wrote: Not sure what are you getting at with these questions. That breaking a bank for a star isn't a viable strategy? Teams were definitely on different timelines. Clippers wanting to win now built what it looked like a perfectly constructed team full of two way wings in their prime. But, they were never able to finish a season healthy in I don't know how many seasons now. It is difficult to win a title. I think they were far better positioned to win a title with George than they would be with SGA in the first three seasons after the trade. All teams go all in at some point when they feel they can contend and only one wins every season.

Lakers paid a fortune for A.Davis. Who won that trade? They won the title with him, so I think it paid off. If they wouldn't, I guess it would be a next trade on your question list Milwaukee paid 3 first rounders and more for JRue. Who won that trade?

(05-11-2024, 06:28 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Only reason that Lakers/Pelicans trade worked was COVID and the no travel bubble. I don´t think you get credit for foreshadowing a world wide pandemic that resulted in a shortened season and a three months break before the play-offs that allowed Bron to reload on his juice.

(05-11-2024, 06:27 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I don’t have a particular agenda, other than the fascination of looking back on a really big, high-stakes trade and trying to evaluate who guessed right.

So in the case of AD, yes, I’d have to say the Lakers won.

I think those “all-in” moves are particularly intriguing. If the team guesses right, it can all be worth it. But if wrong, they’re screwed for a long time.

(05-11-2024, 06:27 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I don’t have a particular agenda, other than the fascination of looking back on a really big, high-stakes trade and trying to evaluate who guessed right.

So in the case of AD, yes, I’d have to say the Lakers won.

I think those “all-in” moves are particularly intriguing. If the team guesses right, it can all be worth it. But if wrong, they’re screwed for a long time.

(05-12-2024, 10:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Evan Sidery (@esidery)
The possibility of the Hawks making Trae Young available in trade talks this offseason are “very real,” per @wojespn.

Atlanta appears moving in the direction of a rebuild after securing the No. 1 overall pick.