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RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - Ghost of Podkolzin - 10-25-2023 I hope Z.Collins doesn't fit well on the same court as Wemby. I'd love him platooning with GWill at PF. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 10:17 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I think they want Green to be the secondary creator when he’s on the floor instead of just standing in the corner so instead of playing with Luka and Kyrie, he’ll play with one of them. Some of his talents are wasted when Luka is out there dribbling the air out of the ball for the entire shot clock. While I don't disagree with this way of thinking and it's clear that Green plays way better with Kyrie than with Luka or Luka and Kyrie, this sounds a lot more like a Luka issue than a Green issue. It's frustrating. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - SleepingHero - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 01:00 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: While I don't disagree with this way of thinking and it's clear that Green plays way better with Kyrie than with Luka or Luka and Kyrie, this sounds a lot more like a Luka issue than a Green issue. It's frustrating. Lots of metrics disagree with this. At least it's not that Green plays badly with Luka. He's been one of the best pairs with Luka the last 2 years. But in essence when the ball is moving and pushed, Green *looks* better. Kyrie definitely pushes the ball more, which is probably what you're seeing. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 01:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Lots of metrics disagree with this. At least it's not that Green plays badly with Luka. He's been one of the best pairs with Luka the last 2 years. Ya for sure, I know the tandem has really great splits (which makes Kidd's decisions even more of a head scratcher) but to your point, I think Green looks more comfortable in a faster tempo and we get to see more of his game in those other situations. Those individual net ratings though I would expect to always be dragged down when Luka isn't there to be one of the best players on the planet. I guess what I would say is that while the numbers are certainly positive with Green and Luka, it sure seems like they could be even better if Luka found different ways to utilize him. In the last preseason game there was a possession where Green was at the elbow extended and tossed it over to Kyrie at the top of the key and Green's man cheated over to Kyrie and he immediately gave the ball back to Green to let him attack the rim. Those are the sort of things that I feel Luka isn't looking for, he's always looking to get people open spot up shots and I'd like to see him just find people earlier in the shot clock if the are in a good position to do something themselves with the ball. RE: MAVS NEWS: Green signs 3/41 extension! - HoosierDaddyKid - 10-25-2023 (10-24-2023, 06:58 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Okay lets try to rationalize this because it doesn't make that much sense from a talent perspective. With Kidd, there is no thought process. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - JamesConway912 - 10-25-2023 Looks like Exum is next in line once the Jones Jr experiment has failed: https://x.com/netw3rk/status/1717248366835269692?s=46&t=-bN4oD2OLU_Ue80HIM_CZQ This is a behind the scenes thing. No doubt Imo. Kidd probably didn’t want Green to be extended and now we’re seeing a bunch of mental gymnastics for a while. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 02:17 PM)JamesConway912 Wrote: Looks like Exum is next in line once the Jones Jr experiment has failed: I give up RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - MrGoat - 10-25-2023 I'll... reserve judgment about the DJJ starting report until I see how it's handled. The season's about to start, I want to at least just enjoy one game before I nitpick They'd better give Wemby a rough welcome to the NBA though RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - RoyTarpleysGhost - 10-25-2023 (10-25-2023, 10:26 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Vassell - 6' 5" I heard they’re trying to turn Sochan into a point guard. Didn’t watch a single Spurs game last year so can’t speak to his skill set. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - Chicagojk - 10-25-2023 With the beginning of the season and Luka coming back from a small injury, I wonder if the Mavs would consider not letting him play a full quarter in the first and third? I know he prefers this but it may be smart to let him get smaller runs earlier in the season. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - RoyTarpleysGhost - 10-25-2023 He was still listed as questionable an hour ago. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - Smitty - 10-25-2023 Dallas Mavericks Starters vs. San Antonio Spurs: G Kyrie Irving G Luka Doncic F Derrick Jones Jr. F Grant Williams C Maxi Kleber RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 10-25-2023 Man we’re weird. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - Smitty - 10-25-2023 I can understand it. The 3 best defenders with Luka and Kai. Green should still get starter minutes and Lively will get plenty also is my guess. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - Jym - 10-25-2023 I'm out See you guys when Kidd is fired RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - SwisherPrice - 10-25-2023 What's the record for most threes taken in a game? Against Wemby, I feel like the Mavs might try to challenge that record tonight RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - SleepingHero - 10-25-2023 https://twitter.com/coopmavs/status/1717346644956455399 Mavs starters: Jones, Williams, Kleber, Irving, Doncic SA starters: Johnson Wembanyama, Collins, Vassell, Sochan 8:43 tip @971TheFreak RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - KillerLeft - 10-25-2023 Kleber, huh? Starting at the 5, after all. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - LukaMVP - 10-25-2023 spurs are a good team now with wemby. tough match and mavs will win it IMHO. RE: GAME 1: San Antonio Spurs (0-0) vs. Dallas Mavericks (0-0)| 8:30pm CST - SleepingHero - 10-25-2023 Luka step back 3 to open the season! And then Luka with the defense! |