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Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination
(10-05-2021, 09:18 AM)luka_skywalker_77 Wrote: I love it when people call things conspiracies, while refuting nothing at the same time. Please, if you can, dispute anything I've said. I think I've been about as candid as I could. I've not posted a falsehood and perhaps that's what gives you a reason to dismiss.

So that´s the logic you want to use. Make claims. Don´t provide any evidence for them. Ask others to do the work and expose them. I will go into detail on the one claim that bothers me the most and might be the most dangerous. Most of them aren´t even worth the time and are easy to refute. This one is at least interesting.

Ivermectin works and is proven to work. Limiting Doctors from prescribing it is allowing more people to die when they don't have to. It's their JOB to prescribe the best medication for the task, and that shouldn't be up to the gov't or some pharmacists to determine. If you want to talk about experts, you have no discussion here.

Mindblowing. You are complaining about the lack of research and longterm studies when it comes to vaccines but are supporting the use of Ivermectin. In case of the latter we have less research, studies and data. With no clear results. Looking at the latest studies the trend is not looking good. As of now the evidence does not support the use of Ivermectin for treating or preventing COVID infections. Obviously still need more data. The only thing that was proven in australian and japanese labs is the effect of a toxic dosis of Ivermectin in vitro.
But it gets even better. You complained about the flawed peer review system and scientific process. It seems like it is doing the job just fine in this case. The Lancet had to retract a pre print (not peer reviewed) of a study that suggested a positive impact of Ivermectin. The analysis company (Surgisphere) refused to allow independent researchers to verify the data and violated patient data laws in multiple countries.

Now the worst part. And for that I am going to quote the FDA. "You are not a horse". Poison control centers around the country are reporting a large uptick in calls about Ivermectin poisoning. People are taking livestock dewormers that have a way higher (potential toxic) dosis of Ivermectin. Even if future studies negate the current data and support the use of Ivermectin those products aren´t an option.

I also understand that a lot of people are in a desperate situation. Drug costs in the US are a big problem. Treatments should be available/affordable for all people. But taking unapproved drugs or even worse animal drugs is not the solution.

For people that want to do their own research:

Review of nearly all ongoing studies
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi....pub2/full

Links to individual studies
https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/resul...rch=Search
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Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination - by omahen - 09-30-2021, 02:55 PM
RE: Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination - [split] from MAVS NEWS - by dirkfansince1998 - 10-05-2021, 10:16 AM

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