Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination

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I addressed the freedom question in the post above.  

The vaccination itself in my view is a distinct issue from forcing vaccinations which I find to be absolutely repugnant and immoral. 

The argument by the way that justifies forcing injections into citizens that don't want them because it affects other people could be extended to practically any individual freedom or right people have.  Most choices you make in your life can be shown to affect other people in your community or society directly or indirectly.  

If you choose to have a child you affect the society around you so lets let people who run the government decide if you should have a child, and maybe they'd like to get rid of some of the children you have already which aren't working so well for greater good as they see it. 

It is a specious argument to force injections on other people because of your own fears. 

On the vaccination itself again, I am not anti-vaccination which is in my view a word used just to dumb down any public debate. The issue I have is the deliberate suppression of any findings or data from Medical Scientists and Medical Doctors that do not conform to a pre determined agenda. 

For example there are many doctors, some of who are by every measure EXPERTS that do not agree with the predominant views on the effectiveness of the vaccine.  Some call its real safety into question as well.   
Is it acceptable to literally attack and blackball those doctors for simply presenting their own findings and views on the topic? 

Even data itself from studies that don't conform to the government view are being attacked and suppressed. 
For example: 
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Vaccinated People 3-times More Likely To Die From Delta Variant Than Unvaccinated 
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I'm not saying that the data there is correct nor am I saying how it should be correctly interpreted.  
That is a debate for Medical Doctors and Scientists of that field. I have read views interpreting that study already in different ways.  
My point is let's not pretend that Medical Science is saying one thing and so called "Anti-vaxxers" or religious zealots are the only people saying anything else.  The vaccination itself should not be a topic that cannot be debated in terms of efficacy or even safety.   

One final point on the topic. I notice one thing is curiously absent from all the discussion about the importance of the vaccination in reducing the spread of the virus which I presume is the strongest rational push for the vaccinations.   Of course there is debate as to whether it even reduces he spread since vaccinated people can still spread the virus to others, but why is there almost no discussion about potential adverse effects of the vaccination? 

Even the Center for Disease Control's own Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System gets attacked CDC's own Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting site 
This government site itself gets attacked just for making the data available (and they actually make it pretty hard for the average person to even access and analyze).  The government crushes dissent and debate in its own ranks. 

How can we or any individual for example weigh any potential risks of adverse events versus the benefits of reduced COVID impact if their is political pressure to suppress data or discussion on adverse events?

First I want to say that I make a living as a statistician.  The problem with the study that says that vaccinated people are 3 times as likely to die from the delta variant is the lack of information on the population.  Are the two groups the same age, and similar in health profile?  Clearly the sample size is too small and it does not need to be given the amount of data we have on the virus.  Most studies show the opposite statistics.  As far as side effects, COVID itself has many neurological side effects, and it can be argued that the virus is not naturally occurring but something that has been created in a lab.  The vaccine on the other hand scares a lot of people irrationally because they hear the word MRNA.  MRNA enters our bodies all the time, its in the oxygen we breath.  Its amazing that people who are terrified of the vaccine show up at hospitals and then receive treatment that is not FDA approved and follows the same idea to generate antibodies.   

As far as freedom goes, does it apply in times of war when a draft is instituted?  Is it right for the government to force its citizens to die for it because some politician decided to invade a distant country in Asia in order to position US power in the world?  Freedom is relative and I think people should have the choice not to get vaccinated.  They should be tested every week and quarantined forcibly if exposed.

The other question is who should pay the price for freedom.  If people choose not to get vaccinated and this causes emergency rooms to be overrun in Alabama, then should  people with heart attacks die waiting because an unvaccinated person has taken their bed?  Maybe if people are unvaccinated with COVID symptoms they should be treated in separate treatments centers?  Should doctors, nurses and EMT's be exposed to extra doses of COVID for freedom?