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Stein just killed all hopes of Ujiri
#61
(06-22-2021, 09:08 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Green over Saddiq.


Three words.

Way. Too. Soon.
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#62
(06-22-2021, 09:09 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Three words.

Way. Too. Soon.

LOL. Three words. No. It's. Not.
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#63
Four words:  Y'all.  Are. Weird.

Shit
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#64
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Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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#65
Be prepared...

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#66
(06-22-2021, 09:37 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Be prepared...

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That's more of a catharsis than anything else.
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#67
so dreamy
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#68
(06-22-2021, 08:27 PM)cow Wrote: What did the Clipps give up for Rivers?  I get wanting to be a nice guy and all but we are in desperate need of draft capital.  We should have squeezed Carlisle's next home for a FRP.
A 2023 FRP to be specific!
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#69
Cuban has to sell the team. 

I cannot believe he's not interested in arguably the best GM in the NBA. 

And the fact that Stein said it's because Cuban doesn't want to cede control. 

I'm so disgusted.
14x All-Star, 12x all-NBA, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 1 NBA Championship: Dirk Nowitzki, the man, the myth, the legend.
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#70
(06-22-2021, 10:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Cuban has to sell the team. 

I cannot believe he's not interested in arguably the best GM in the NBA. 

And the fact that Stein said it's because Cuban doesn't want to cede control. 

I'm so disgusted.

I'm going to say this.  I don't like it, but it's his right to run the team however he wants to.  He's the owner, he takes the largest financial risk, so I can't fault him for doing what he wants.

That says, I can say that's as stupid as the day is long and unless he's saying that Donnie and Carlisle have been talking him out of good decisions, then he's too arrogant to be blessed with Luka and honestly, he won't have him long.
"There are no friends on the court." - Luka Doncic
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#71
(06-22-2021, 11:28 PM)TXBamanut Wrote: I'm going to say this.  I don't like it, but it's his right to run the team however he wants to.  He's the owner, he takes the largest financial risk, so I can't fault him for doing what he wants.


Cuban can do whatever he wants true. But Cuban's ego drives his every whim. If Dallas were to turn on him, like say James Dolan, that'd hit Cuban right where it hurts.

Dude needs an ego check the size of the sun.
14x All-Star, 12x all-NBA, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 1 NBA Championship: Dirk Nowitzki, the man, the myth, the legend.
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#72
There's really no financial risk for NBA owners. Like you can be the most incompetent clown and the value of your franchise will still go up.
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#73
I still don’t get why people are so obsessed with Masai. The Kawahi trade was a spectacular no brainer. Everyone makes that move in that unique position. Otherwise he’s made some solid moves. Nothing out of this world. He’s solid, not a savior. Seems overrated af lol. I’m down for somethin fresh.
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#74
(06-23-2021, 11:18 AM)Mak Wrote: I still don’t get why people are so obsessed with Masai.


Because a guy like Masai is a symbol for a main guy that would come in with a plan and would never listen to nonsense from guys like Cuban. As some other have nicely pointed out Mavs have clearly established their is no sound vision/strategy what exactly they want to accomplish. Other than perpetual star hunting which they fail at every single year. I don't know a lot about pre Luka history, but how many stars did Mavs signed (or trade for) since 2011? Was KP the only one and even that one failed miserably? 

I doubt any no namer Mavs bring in will have the ability to create a sound winning strategy without outsider interfearance.
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#75
I dont watch a lot of Raptors ball...please correct me if I am wrong...

But when I watched them...all their guys seem like basketball players.   All athletic and fairly quick.   Is there a slow person on that team?

Imo, you have to have quick guys that can change directions quickly.   I think Toronto is filled with that if Im not wrong.   Sure...they didnt win anything this year...but they it seems like they have an idea of what type of player should be on the court.   The guys need to be able to dribble, shoot, pass, play defense....but I think they have the right idea.
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#76
(06-23-2021, 02:31 PM)omahen Wrote: Because a guy like Masai is a symbol for a main guy that would come in with a plan and would never listen to nonsense from guys like Cuban. As some other have nicely pointed out Mavs have clearly established their is no sound vision/strategy what exactly they want to accomplish. Other than perpetual star hunting which they fail at every single year. I don't know a lot about pre Luka history, but how many stars did Mavs signed (or trade for) since 2011? Was KP the only one and even that one failed miserably? 

I doubt any no namer Mavs bring in will have the ability to create a sound winning strategy without outsider interfearance.

Lucky you. LOL. Feel like we should make a list of all the things Cuban has done in the last decade. Let me try the comprehensive list. Big Grin

- Dismantled the whole championship team for capspace to try and sign Dwight Howard and Deron Williams, who both proved to be completely washed-up.

- Traded an unprotected 1st round pick for an know drug addict in Lamar Odom.

- Traded a 1st round pick for Rudy Fernandez, who didn´t want to play in the NBA anymore and went home to Spain immediately.

- Traded Jae Crowder (because he rightfully wanted minutes on the Mavs) + Brandan Wright + 1st round pick + 2nd round pick for Rajon Rondo (who Carlisle did not want and subsequently dismantled and embarrassed publically) + Dwight Powell

---> Later prematurely extend Powell´s contract to save face. It jokingly became known as the Powell trade.

- Traded down five spots to save 300k in salary capspace for Dwight Howard´s free agency chase. Dwight Howard didn´t want to come here and the 300k wouldn´t have been enough without trading Marion anyway. We ended up with Shane Larkin instead of Giannis, Schroeder or Olynyk.

-Traded Justin Anderson and two converted second round picks for Nerleans Noel. Carlisle immediately benched the new acquisition in favour of I believe 35 year old Sleepy Sammy Dalembert. After a failed 70M contract extension (Noel declined), Carlisle told Noel via an live interview on media day that he would not be the starting center on opening day. Can´t remember which veteran was starting instead, but Carlisle continued to embarrass Noel until his eventual departure and rise to starting center on the 2nd best regular season defense in 2021.

- Drafted 27 year old war veteran Bernard Sarge James with the 33rd pick, because it was a nice publicity stunt. The next two picks were Draymond Green and Khris Middleton.

-Drafted a player from Qatar in the 2nd round pick, because that player would have no ambition to play in the NBA and therefore not bother Cuban/Carlisle.

- Drafted Satnam Singh from India, because he was filming a documentary about his journey from the Slums to semi-professional basketball in Asia. Most likely the worst player ever drafted in NBA history.

- Offered DAJ a contract and guaranteed Wes Matthews (coming off a torn Achilles) a pay-raise, if DAJ didn´t agree to the contract.

---> DAJ agreed, then went back on his word. Cuban then decided to pay Matthews the additional money, although he was already overpaying and bidding against himself with the first offer.

--> Later signed DAJ on a one year deal anyway, because Cuban has no pride. Cuban celebrated a massive coup, cause it was announced pre official free agency. That was the year Cuban finally discovered the existence of pre free-agency tampering.

---> The same summer Cuban could have signed Nurkic, Randle and Brook Lopez for the same money that washed-up DAJ cost alone.

- Signed known party animal Chandler Parsons and celebrated the signing in a night club. Parsons´ body was on the verge of a full Porzingis breakdown at that point already.

- Decided that a winning culture was more important than a top pick, so in the Tatum/Fox/Ball/Isaac/Markkanen draft year, the Mavs went from last place in January!!!! all the way up to the 8th draft pick and DSJ.

- Still on the winning culture the Mavs fell to #5 in the draft order the following year, so instead of simply picking Luka outright, they had to send a future 1st round pick to Atlanta (#9 pick next year)

And that´s just everything I can remember. There is probably a lot more shit.
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#77
21, I think some of your points on this list are outright BS, but not nearly enough of them to prevent it from being a withering indictment of the past 10 years.
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#78
(06-23-2021, 03:53 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: 21, I think some of your points on this list are outright BS, but not nearly enough of them to prevent it from being a withering indictment of the past 10 years.

Which ones? I mean this is 10 years going by memory, but I´m pretty sure all of that happened like that or very close to it. Certainly no outright BS on the facts.
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#79
A former Dirk teammate, maybe Cuban is listening to Dirk's input. Good for Finley. Jason Kidd as head coach incoming...

Actually that might not be the worst thing, he might manage to use his backstabbing skills to get Voulgaris to fall out of favor with Cubes. And if he's picked up anything from Frank Vogel on the defensive end that would be a plus too
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#80
Dear lord dude you either have the most amazing memory or you've been keeping a running tally on your computer for the last decade.  Either way, I'm impressed.   Big Grin


I didn't realize Draymond and Middleton went right after Sarge in the draft.
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