Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination

[Dahlsim]

I would have mandated for compulsory vaccination, if it would have been my choice, but there are risks involved.

You can always have a medical issue you didn't know about. There is always a chance the vax you get was contaminated or mistreated. Or hell, the M.D. might slip and punctures your eye.

It's a game of numbers and the ICUs say the one risk is much higher than the other.

Thanks for at least recognizing that there are risks involved, even though you minimize the potential scope and size of those risks.  
@"jesusshuttlesworth82" says: 

There are not risks both ways unless youre a god damn 

That sort of thinking is, I will refrain from name calling here, not at all helpful to the public good or scientific.  
There are definitely risks as I posted earlier and we all know, to any vaccine or even most any drug for that matter.  

The question is what is the size of the risk and what are the risk factors so that specific groups can minimize their risks. 
@"Mapka" isolates his argument to the ICU's and what is reported there.   Here's a couple of things to consider there. 

1)  Let me try a recent anecdote.  I just got a call from a friend yesterday.  I didn't initiate a conversation on this topic, we had plenty of other things to discuss but he claims that because he has had to visit hospitals and medical facilities in a couple of different states recently efforts were made to get to take the vaccination. 
He has rejected all efforts on the basis of the fact that he has already had COVID and his research and doctors tell him he does not need nor should he take the vaccination.  He of course also has medical issues nevertheless the furious drive right now is to VACCINATE EVERYBODY! 

My friend also claims that he knows for sure that many people who are vaccinated, if they report sickness or side effects were being pushed to stay at home and recover, many of which he says should have been in an ICU.  He says that because he knows that some of them died, at home.   
Now I don't claim to know how accurate this is although I know my friend is not prone to fabricating stories without reason.  He also says that he's waiting now for Doctors appointments because there is a shortage of medical help. He claims some of his Doctors, specialists have refused to be immunized and are not longer practicing where they were before.  

Trust me when I say I am sharing his story in much less emotional and anti-vaxx manner than he would. 
My only point here is that there are other numerous factors that could  skew and change the statistics and the numbers we hear and rely on such as the numbers in the ICUs and why they are there. 

2) To the point of risks both ways there is significant disagreement among Medical Professionals on this topic.   I posted references to earlier from other Doctors including some that are formally registering their serious concerns: 
I heard this quote from the aforementioned Dr. Yeadon. 

I think it's dangerous to vaccinate people that already have immunity. 

He gives his reasons and concerns and a lot of other details on the science as he understands it.  
For anyone who would like to hear his reasoning you can go to about the 9:59 point in the following radio interview I have linked here: 
https://wiba.iheart.com/featured/vicki-m...interview/