03-10-2021, 08:29 AM
(03-10-2021, 06:46 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Three points:
1. 25 and 27 would be the epitome of delayed gratification. If I'm a GM, I could be fired twice before the payoff from such a deal is realized.
2. We can't actually trade 25 right now. The 23 pick has to convey in 23 in order to trade 25 (it is top 10 protected in 23, 24 and 25).
3. I don't really want to trade Brunson. But, even if I did, I'm not sure he or Green is a fair comparison to DSJ...at the time. Yes, it looks like Brunson is the better player today. But, we've fast forwarded the video a bit and can say that in hindsight. DSJ still looked to have some upside...probably more upside than Brunson or Green...at the time the deal was made.
1. Milwaukee paid 2025 and 2027 FRP for JRue. They also added 2020 Indiana FRP which went to Denver in the end.
2. Dirkfan already answered we could lift the restrictions. That's why I put theoretically. It would be an ultimate win now move.
3. I agree. It all depends on how one sees those young talents. New York obviously managed to destroy that DSJ value in half a year. If they thought they are getting a potential star, they surely didn't invest much effort into him. Brunson could be seen as valuable rotation player on extremely cheap contract.
I was having Collins in mind when I was writing that. Biggest dilemma is if he is worth the max. Seems like a lose-lose situation for Hawks GM. I think he is not worth max contract, I think he is less of a unicorn KP was when Mavs traded for him. He has some decent stats, but his team was never near playoffs and one should be very careful about stats on losing teams. On the other hand, I am quite sure some desperate team will offer that. Because every team looking to trade for him knows they will have to overpay him in a couple of months for a long time in the future, I doubt someone will be willing to brake the bank for him. Like Dallas case - do you really pay 2 FRP and Brunson (example) for the privilige of overpaying him in the summer? One would really have to be absolutely sure about him to bet the whole future on him and his fit with the team. That's why I think offers must be lower.
Based on this, the Hawks GM has the options:
1. accept a lower offer to get something for him. It would certainly not be welcomed by the fans
2. max him in the summer and overpay (there is absolutely no way GM could afford to let him go for nothing. That is not an option, if he wants to keep the job).
GM has basically two options:
1. Do a star trade, where Collins is traded for a very good win now starter level player(s) or very high ceiling guy. So Wiseman/Edwards types or (I don't know, contenders are so maxed out already) Hield types . I don't think Dallas has something like that to offer. Kleber and DFS are role players, THJ is expiring and might be gone in a couple fo months - also not sure if league realized he is different THJ than he used to be. I guess JRich and Brunson would be closest approximations to that.
2. Most likely imho - GM could delay his decision till summer. This way he keeps the team and competes for playoffs. Sometime they got to become healthier. Then he can accept like a first round pick or something to not match his offer (like Milwaukee-Indiana Brogdon trade). Or he could do a SnT (I don't think there would be much better options on the table than they are now). Or Collins might even further improve which would make the decision to overpay easier.