2020-2021 MAVS NEWS: Archived

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Not necessarily right at you, Gump, but just a jumping point.

For me, that was nearly 20 years ago, and he's remarried with no incidents of domestic violence since.  Honestly, I've got no problem with that.  It's a bigger risk than someone who doesnt' have that in his background, because if it were to happen again, it would be WAY worse, because of the history, but I think at some point, this nonsense cancel culture thing needs to stop. Statistically, that just isn't the case. People who have already committed abuse are much more likely to do so in the future than people who never have. I mean, it's really pretty easy not to hit your wife, although some guys have a pattern of doing so.  People change, people grow and for me, Billups' stuff shouldn't even have been brought up.

This stuff from decades ago taht get selectively brought up because someone has a special interest in getting their stuff read is pathetic.  There is no one here that thinks either of those guys are beating their spouses right now...no one here would bet their house on it.

I don't know that the years since a reported incident is determinative. What if he had murdered someone twenty years ago? Should employers necessarily take the view that they should ignore that, since it's been a while and they don't think he's going to do it again, and they should tell customers who have concerns about it to gtfo? Sometimes, an action is bad enough that it deserves addressing, even if it's been a while since the last reported incident. 

Bama, I get that your view is sincere and deeply felt. I just wonder if you have ever felt there might be any merit in legitimately trying to understand how others with a different view might see the situation, rather than simply dismissing their concerns as nonsensical and agenda-driven. 

MY greater concern is Kidd's continued pattern of questionable ethics situations.  To me, that's worse, because that's has been done multiple times in multiple situations at multiple places from legal judgment to different situations in his career from the way he left the Mavs the first time as a player, to the way that he left the second time to Brooklyn to the Bucks to the DUI to whatever....that's a character pattern and THAT, more than a domestic violence situation from pretty much 2 decades ago, with no incidents since, is a bigger red flag to me.

Yes, I think that is the huge concern. The bad things Kidd has done were not minor. And, in some form or another, questionable behavior has continued to occur. This makes people not trust that he is really reformed, and I don't know that he has even tried to convince them otherwise. It seems reasonable to me that the fans who have serious concerns about his character, based on evidence, should listen to why the team is not worried about it, and that it is fair that the team should offer that explanation. 

To translate, if he had consistently had domestic violence allegations since 2003, that's would be a no...yet, he's consistently had these problems with integrity and stuff.