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ROTW: Jacob Blake Shooting and Aftermath Thread
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From NYT:

Tracking the Suspect in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings
[color=rgba(27, 27, 27, 0.65098)]Footage appears to show a teenager shooting three people during protests in Wisconsin. We tracked his movements that night.[/color]
By [color=var(--body-font-color)]Haley Willis[color=var(--body-font-color)]Muyi Xiao[/color][color=var(--body-font-color)]Christiaan Triebert[/color][color=var(--body-font-color)]Christoph Koettl[/color], Stella Cooper, David Botti, [color=var(--body-font-color)]John Ismay[/color] and [color=var(--body-font-color)]Ainara Tiefenthäler[/color]
Aug. 27, 2020
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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.65098)]Brendan Gutenschwager, via Storyful[/color]
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A teenager who walked among protesters in Kenosha, Wis., carrying a military-style semi-automatic rifle was arrested and faces a charge of first-degree intentional homicide in connection with shootings that left two people dead on Tuesday night.
Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old Illinois resident, appeared on multiple videos taken throughout the night by protesters and bystanders who chronicled the events as peaceful protests gave way to chaos, with demonstrators, armed civilians and others facing off against one another and the police in the darkened streets.
The New York Times’s Visual Investigations unit analyzed hours of footage to track Mr. Rittenhouse’s movements in the moments leading up to, and during, the shootings.
Who is Kyle Rittenhouse?
Mr. Rittenhouse was arrested early Wednesday in his hometown, Antioch, Ill., which is about 30 minutes southwest of the protests in Kenosha, just over the state line.
Multiple posts on his social media accounts proclaim support for pro-police causes like the Blue Lives Matter movement and Humanize the Badge, a nonprofit that he ran a Facebook fund-raiser for on his 16th birthday.
His posts also suggest a strong affinity for guns, with videos showing Mr. Rittenhouse taking backyard target practice, posing with guns and assembling a weapon.
But many details about both his background and his motivations for walking around the Kenosha protests carrying a military-style semi-automatic rifle are still emerging.
Before the shootings
About two hours before the first shooting, the producer of a video livestream interviews Mr. Rittenhouse at a Kenosha vehicle dealership.
Mr. Rittenhouse is there at the same time as several other armed men. Some of them are positioned on the building’s roof overlooking the parking lot where vehicles were burned the day before.
In a brief exchange on the livestream, he identifies himself as “Kyle.”

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.65098)]Richie McGinniss, via Twitter[/color]
In another interview, Mr. Rittenhouse speaks with Richie McGinniss, a video editor at The Daily Caller, a conservative news and opinion site.
Mr. Rittenhouse says that he’s there to protect the business. He calls it his job, although there is no indication that he was asked to guard the site.
Later, he claims to another videographer that he was pepper sprayed by someone in a nearby crowd while protecting property.
In most of the footage The Times has reviewed from before the shootings, Mr. Rittenhouse is around this area. He also offers medical assistance to protesters.
About 15 minutes before the first shooting, police officers drive past Mr. Rittenhouse, and the other armed civilians who claim to be protecting the dealership, and offer water out of appreciation.
Mr. Rittenhouse walks up to a police vehicle carrying his rifle and talks with the officers.
He eventually leaves the dealership and is barred by the police from returning. Six minutes later footage shows Mr. Rittenhouse being chased by an unknown group of people into the parking lot of another dealership several blocks away.
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.
Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.65098)]By The New York Times. Image: Drew Hernandez, via Twitter[/color]
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Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”
As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.
Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.65098)]By The New York Times. Image: Brendan Gutenschwager, via Storyful[/color]
Police response
As this happens, police vehicles just one block away remain stationary during the gunfire.
Mr. Rittenhouse walks with his hands up toward the police vehicles. Bystanders call out to the officers that he had just shot people.
The police drive by him without stopping, on their way to assist the victims.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/ky...FRCYlS5wgH

Twitter thread with video:

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809
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(08-27-2020, 11:09 AM)ThunderMav Wrote: From NYT:


Point being? I mean, it obviously looks awful.
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My point for jumping in and offering moderation in the player boycott thread (https://www.qabickcents.com/dallasbasket...hp?tid=561) yesterday was to keep the discussion of the Jacob Blake shooting and aftermath as a separate conversation. I still think that's a good idea. 

This thread is for discussion about the Jacob Blake shooting and aftermath.
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Theres a lot of video evidence that pretty much contradicts the media narrative almost 100%. Looks like self defense all the way, but hey...
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(08-28-2020, 12:03 PM)luka_skywalker_77 Wrote: Theres a lot of video evidence that pretty much contradicts the media narrative almost 100%. Looks like self defense all the way, but hey...

I think it will set a really bad precedent if he is convicted.  He was followed by a mob, first guy drop kicked him when the kid was on the ground, second guy tried to hit him in the head with a skateboard, third guy had a gun and attacked him with the others while he was on the ground.  This should literally be a video on what is self defense.  Politics should have nothing to do with this.
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On another level, as someone from a country where normal citizens are not allowed to own fire-arms and the few exceptions that exists are usually tied to restrictions, like people are not allowed to carry these fire-arms in public places, I literally cringe every time I watch a video where people have heated discussions while carrying multiple guns or run around with these in confusing situations like these street-protests. Maybe partly, because I'm not used to it but still only a matter of time people get hurt or worse. As could be seen here.
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(08-28-2020, 12:03 PM)luka_skywalker_77 Wrote: Theres a lot of video evidence that pretty much contradicts the media narrative almost 100%. Looks like self defense all the way, but hey..
I call BS on that. But it's ok for a 17-year-old white male, to walk down the street with an AR-15 after he kills 2 people and wounds another. He even walked up to the cops and asked them for a bottle of water, and they complied. They don't ask for identification, they don't ask why he has an assault rifle, they don't ask him shit. Do you think a black man can get away with that? He would be shot dead immediately.
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https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/statu...3103220737
Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...8874468352

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...7668958208

Something to ponder

If the MSM had waited to blame cops in the Blake shooting then the burning and looting and deaths afterwards maybe don’t happen.  How many deaths are attributable to press not gathering facts and fanning the flames.  

Players are being used as pawns by the Dems and their media arm (MSM).  Its all political and not about people, strictly a ruse by the left to try and win in Nov.  they could care less how many die or have businesses destroyed.  

In America you have “due process”.  This is what separates us from other countries.  And yet NBA decided to make a political stance and shooting determination before all facts were presented or known.  

Its a shame too.  They could care less about these people its just a way to get more spotlight on themselves to get sponsorship deals.  Its self serving. Players already live in a bubble before Kung Flu and now are in a 2nd bubble, dually insulated from real life.  They are devoid of facts and full of hype.  

Lots of fans have learned to stop putting these rich hypocrits on a pedestal and can leave the sport/s knowing our country is more important than sports.  They made the choice easy.
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(08-29-2020, 12:03 PM)ThunderMav Wrote: https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...8874468352

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...7668958208

Something to ponder

If the MSM had waited to blame cops in the Blake shooting then the burning and looting and deaths afterwards maybe don’t happen.  How many deaths are attributable to press not gathering facts and fanning the flames.  

Players are being used as pawns by the Dems and their media arm (MSM).  Its all political and not about people, strictly a ruse by the left to try and win in Nov.  they could care less how many die or have businesses destroyed.  

In America you have “due process”.  This is what separates us from other countries.  And yet NBA decided to make a political stance and shooting determination before all facts were presented or known.  

Its a shame too.  They could care less about these people its just a way to get more spotlight on themselves to get sponsorship deals.  Its self serving. Players already live in a bubble before Kung Flu and now are in a 2nd bubble, dually insulated from real life.  They are devoid of facts and full of hype.  

Lots of fans have learned to stop putting these rich hypocrits on a pedestal and can leave the sport/s knowing our country is more important than sports.  They made the choice easy.

You mean trials or that cops are not part of the judicial system and cannot shoot anybody in the back seven times, because he has a pending "he said-she said" court date? Rolleyes

You quoted a police union report on the incident as facts that constructed a story about having a knife in his car that he might have intended to use or not, and that might or might not be a butter knife to make his kids sandwiches.

Guess you made it very transparent, where you stand with this Kung Flu and Fake Media post. About the only thing that place does not have are FACTS.
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NBA hypocrites use every opportunity to bash the USA while ignoring the human rights CRIMES of totalitarian China!

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...4876902401

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...4404276224
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(08-29-2020, 12:03 PM)ThunderMav Wrote: https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...8874468352

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/12...7668958208

Something to ponder

If the MSM had waited to blame cops in the Blake shooting then the burning and looting and deaths afterwards maybe don’t happen.  How many deaths are attributable to press not gathering facts and fanning the flames.  

Players are being used as pawns by the Dems and their media arm (MSM).  Its all political and not about people, strictly a ruse by the left to try and win in Nov.  they could care less how many die or have businesses destroyed.  

In America you have “due process”.  This is what separates us from other countries.  And yet NBA decided to make a political stance and shooting determination before all facts were presented or known.  

Its a shame too.  They could care less about these people its just a way to get more spotlight on themselves to get sponsorship deals.  Its self serving. Players already live in a bubble before Kung Flu and now are in a 2nd bubble, dually insulated from real life.  They are devoid of facts and full of hype.  

Lots of fans have learned to stop putting these rich hypocrits on a pedestal and can leave the sport/s knowing our country is more important than sports.  They made the choice easy.

This country doesn't give a fuck about us either, never have. So what's your point?
(08-19-2020, 10:26 PM)BolsDamols Wrote: TB32>PG13

(08-19-2020, 10:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: TRAE BURKE SLICIN AND DICIN STRAIGHT TO THE CUP!

Okay Wright. Great shit there. Great charge to draw PG 4th.

Haha Walt Frazier level commentary right there
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