Next GM Watch

[KillerLeft]

Here's a place for discussion/predictions about how this GM thing shakes out. Who do we think it will be? Do we think it will happen soon(ish), or over the off season? What type of attributes are we hoping to see out of the team's new leader? 

I think it's a pretty exciting time to be a Mavs fan, all things considered, though not all the excitement is good excitement. I'm pretty worried they'll get this wrong.

[KillerLeft]

Here's Isaac Harris doing a reasonably good job of breaking down the obvious candidates. 
https://youtu.be/ra7I24TSi_0?si=0yluAmxDa4y1jtc4

As predicted, Kidd as GM is starting to be floated out there, and I'm pretty worried about that. 

I think I'm team Lindsey (if these are the actual choices), but something tells me not to hope for that, since it's being carefully branded as a Cuban suggestion.

[Jmaciscool]

For me, my ranking (of realistic candidates, so excluding Presti, etc) would be:

1. Lindsey
2. Riccardi
3. Masai
4. Finley
10. Kidd

[KillerLeft]

Isaac also brought up David Griffin, who I haven't heard much about recently.

Does anyone like that idea?

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

After the crap we just went through, Id actually be ok with Cuban/Lindsey back as GM. As long as Finley sticks around to be the conduit to American players. That was really the biggest weakness in the Cuban/Donnie arrangement. There was no one plugged into the domestic players.

[Jmaciscool]

Isaac also brought up David Griffin, who I haven't heard much about recently.

Does anyone like that idea?

I wouldn't mind that. He definitely checks the "do you have experience trading AD?" box if that's what Dumont's looking for.

[KillerLeft]

After the crap we just went through, Id actually be ok with Cuban/Lindsey back as GM.  As long as Finley sticks around to be the conduit to American players.  That was really the biggest weakness in the Cuban/Donnie arrangement.  There was no one plugged into the domestic players.

I totally agree. Totally. As difficult of a time as I had with the end of the Cuban era, I would actually welcome his involvement, as long as he wasn't the ultimate decider anymore, and maybe this is naive of me, but I really don't think we're in danger of that happening ever again. 

Isaac used "Game of Thrones" as an analogy, and I'm sorry, but I'm officially worried that they'll swing and miss on this one. It's a huge opportunity to set the franchise up for 20 years of success...or, to throw gasoline onto the fire right as it's reaching the kids' bedrooms.

[JamesConway912]

No. Just get someone proven for once. The last time they decided to not go for Ainge / Ujiri even though both were available and it ended in a massive clusterf….

Kidd has no business being the GM. Neither do Finley / Ricardi. The Mavs FO has not been a stronghold over the last years. 

Lowe put it bluntly. You simply can not promote anyone from that groud who just let the worst trade in all of professional sports happen right before their faces. He is 1000000% right on this.

They need external help & a fresh start. I thought the Bob Myers rumor was great. That’s exactly the type of proven winner we need.

Or you for once use the disgusting Adelson-clans mob money and flood someone with money until he says yes who does not appear to be available right now at all.

[KillerLeft]

No. Just get someone proven for once. The last time they decided to not go for Ainge / Ujiri even though both were available and it ended in a massive clusterf….

Kidd has no business being the GM. Neither do Finley / Ricardi. The Mavs FO has not been a stronghold over the last years. 

Lowe put it bluntly. You simply can not promote anyone from that groud who just let the worst trade in all of professional sports happen right before their faces. He is 1000000% right on this.

They need external help & a fresh start. I thought the Bob Myers rumor was great. That’s exactly the type of proven winner we need.

Or you for once use the disgusting Adelson-clans mob money and flood someone with money until he says yes who does not appear to be available right now at all.

This is why I'm team Lindsey. I've been pushing back against the trend of assuming everything good was his doing and everything bad wasn't, and I still struggle with that logic, but he seems to have been a good influence in DET, and I saw this tweet from Andy Bailey the other day about his time in Utah:

https://x.com/AndrewDBailey/status/19887...44888?s=20

So, while I don't think there's really definitive PROOF that he's great, the feeling that he's had a positive influence on his front offices seems to follow him from fan base to fan base and not just be a Mavs fan phenomenon.

[cow]

My feet have been planted in the Kidd isn't even a good coach camp for a long while now. I was bummed out about his extension and further entrenching him in the organization would take away all the hope that firing Nico generated. Cuban having a say in the next GM or regaining some of those responsibilities is really worrisome as well. Let's not forget all the wheel spinning post-2011, the sexual misconduct that run amuck under his "watchful eye", the messy breakups with Donnie/Rick, who he tapped as their replacements, and all the basketball operation miscues along the way.

Of the trio that have ties to the Mavericks that are being floated, I guess Lindsay would be the best choice, but I hope they go further outside of their comfort zone. And speaking of that, I have a bad feeling about Masai, but that's 100% gut.

[JamesConway912]

This is why I'm team Lindsey. I've been pushing back against the trend of assuming everything good was his doing and everything bad wasn't, and I still struggle with that logic, but he seems to have been a good influence in DET, and I saw this tweet from Andy Bailey the other day about his time in Utah:

https://x.com/AndrewDBailey/status/19887...44888?s=20

So, while I don't think there's really definitive PROOF that he's great, the feeling that he's had a positive influence on his front offices seems to follow him from fan base to fan base and not just be a Mavs fan phenomenon.

He wasnt there when the Luka trade happened so thats a plus. But he still has a relatively small name. If he is their target Id imagine Cuban would have plenty of say behind the scenes given his high profile. I doubt that is the right course of action.

[KillerLeft]

He wasnt there when the Luka trade happened so thats a plus. But he still has a relatively small name. If he is their target Id imagine Cuban would have plenty of say behind the scenes given his high profile. I doubt that is the right course of action.

Most GM's have relatively small names, tbh. 

If NAME is what they're going for, it's gonna be Ujiri, for sure, I'd assume. I'm not so sure that's what they'll go for, however.

[Jmaciscool]

Per sources, all candidates for the open Mavs GM position must be able to pass the below quiz:

1. Do you have any experience working in an NBA front office?
2. True or False: Per NBA rules, a second round pick must be included in every trade.
3. Houston approaches you with a potential trade of Kevin Durant for Cooper Flagg and a second round pick. Do you accept or decline this offer?
4. Have you ever been personally thanked by the home crowd of a team you traded with?
5. Have you ever made a GM move so radical that Shams has to insist it's real?
6. Do you consider ball handling as optional when constructing a roster?
7. Fill in the blank with the appropriate term: "______ wins championships." a.) Defense b.) A top 5 NBA player

[HoosierDaddyKid]

No. Just get someone proven for once. The last time they decided to not go for Ainge / Ujiri even though both were available and it ended in a massive clusterf….

Kidd has no business being the GM. Neither do Finley / Ricardi. The Mavs FO has not been a stronghold over the last years. 

Lowe put it bluntly. You simply can not promote anyone from that groud who just let the worst trade in all of professional sports happen right before their faces. He is 1000000% right on this.

They need external help & a fresh start. I thought the Bob Myers rumor was great. That’s exactly the type of proven winner we need.

Or you for once use the disgusting Adelson-clans mob money and flood someone with money until he says yes who does not appear to be available right now at all.

Bob Myers ain't coming. He's been named the President/CEO of the Commanders, Sixers, NJ Devils, of owner Josh Harris multiple franchises and businesses.

[cow]

Marc Stein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttgcbXJaalk

[HoosierDaddyKid]

This is why I'm team Lindsey. I've been pushing back against the trend of assuming everything good was his doing and everything bad wasn't, and I still struggle with that logic, but he seems to have been a good influence in DET, and I saw this tweet from Andy Bailey the other day about his time in Utah:

https://x.com/AndrewDBailey/status/19887...44888?s=20

So, while I don't think there's really definitive PROOF that he's great, the feeling that he's had a positive influence on his front offices seems to follow him from fan base to fan base and not just be a Mavs fan phenomenon.

Here's a question. Why did Lindsey leave Dallas for Detroit in the first place? Differences of opinion on team building?

[FireNicoHarrison]

Dumont will hire an high experience GM for sure, he needs to send a message to the fans.
Probably Kidd spot is not so safe too.

No more joke.

[KillerLeft]

Here's a question. Why did Lindsey leave Dallas for Detroit in the first place? Differences of opinion on team building?

I don't know, but they had just reached the NBA finals at that time, and those PJW/Gafford deals were all the rage. I always assumed that, like we see with assistant coaches of successful teams, he was poached for a slightly elevated role and salary.

[Mavs2021]

Isaac also brought up David Griffin, who I haven't heard much about recently.

Does anyone like that idea?

F*** no. What has he ever done?

I´m honestly not sure Ujiri is all that great, but at least I´d know he´d not give a sh*t what Cuban thinks or wants. And I hope Lindsey would be the same way.

Cuban acting like it was not him that hired Harrison and sold to the Adelsons is so fn annoying. Cuban is reaching Trump levels of BS in this whole mess with his holy martyr act. Feels like he is gaslighting the whole fanbase.

[ballsrchr]

Isaac also brought up David Griffin, who I haven't heard much about recently.

Does anyone like that idea?

I like the David Griffin idea.  But there are others to consider as well.  The new GM is one of the most important decisions the Mavs will be making in...20 years, or more.  I would like to see them get it right...for a change.  The New GM will have a real mess to clear up.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of anybody that is already associated with the Mavs being considered as GM.  It should be a someone who has a clear path forward and the fortitude to see it through.

Griffin, Myers,...,..., well...any other qualified person who lives 2 states away.  Just nobody who has been involved in this dumpster fire to date.  Lindsey?...a fairly safe choice, but...I don't think so.