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FA: Mavs Extend Hardy! | 3yrs/18mil
#41
Moves done by this FO in last two seasons were mostly great, but this move is becoming sort of confusing. They gave him a contract and after just one game cut his minutes to almost zero. You can't afford to have above vet min end of bench guy, imho. Either you play him or trade him (not resign him).
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#42
(11-05-2024, 11:01 AM)omahen Wrote: Moves done by this FO in last two seasons were mostly great, but this move is becoming sort of confusing. They gave him a contract and after just one game cut his minutes to almost zero. You can't afford to have above vet min end of bench guy, imho. Either you play him or trade him (not resign him).

I don't think the extension should have come with a guarantee of minutes.

They took a gamble on the new deal. Most praised it (I was an outlier, because I thought it was an overpay for who he is, and hadn't seen progress). But now its up to Hardy to perform.

They are making him earn his minutes. When he sux, he plays less. He's been doing almost nothing but the meh stuff most games. His PER is a not-so-stellar 1.2. Yuck. So he sits a lot.

I don't blame any of that on the Mavs. And we just have to wait and see if he plays better. There's definitely an opening in the rotation for someone (Grimes isn't doing much better).
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#43
(11-05-2024, 07:41 PM)F Gump Wrote: I don't think the extension should have come with a guarantee of minutes.

They took a gamble on the new deal. Most praised it (I was an outlier, because I thought it was an overpay for who he is, and hadn't seen progress). But now its up to Hardy to perform.

They are making him earn his minutes. When he sux, he plays less. He's been doing almost nothing but the meh stuff most games. His PER is a not-so-stellar 1.2. Yuck. So he sits a lot.

I don't blame any of that on the Mavs. And we just have to wait and see if he plays better. There's definitely an opening in the rotation for someone (Grimes isn't doing much better).

I also don't think it should come with a guarantee of minutes. Hardy had a very good first game against SA, and he had a meh game against Phoenix (like most of the team). His minutes were reduced after that game and SD took his spot in rotation. Hardy only receives a couple of minutes in the second quarter since that second game (not counting 4th quarter minutes in blow out games). I agree he should earn his minutes, but I also think he should get more of opportunity to actually do it. 

SD on the other hand has not been particularly good to really earn his spot. He is shooting 34 % from the floor and 27 % from three so far. But, might be Kidd loves the idea of playing with two creators at all times and SD is a bit better creator than Hardy. He makes more assists and less mistakes. None of them is a good defender but SD is bigger and therefor less of a target on defense (comes handy because Mavs are switching a lot). If Kidd really likes a guy for such a role, than this could be a player Mavs would be looking for on the market, as SD is really not that good playing it. Someone who can play 20 minutes on and off ball and is big enough to not be a complete defensive liability. And is of course on a small contract.

Still, if they don't see a role for Hardy, because they prefer a bigger third creator, still not sure why handing out the contract. Might be they mainly see him as a contract that will be useful to trade next season.
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(Yesterday, 11:06 AM)omahen Wrote: I also don't think it should come with a guarantee of minutes. Hardy had a very good first game against SA, and he had a meh game against Phoenix (like most of the team). His minutes were reduced after that game and SD took his spot in rotation. Hardy only receives a couple of minutes in the second quarter since that second game (not counting 4th quarter minutes in blow out games). I agree he should earn his minutes, but I also think he should get more of opportunity to actually do it. 

SD on the other hand has not been particularly good to really earn his spot. He is shooting 34 % from the floor and 27 % from three so far. But, might be Kidd loves the idea of playing with two creators at all times and SD is a bit better creator than Hardy. He makes more assists and less mistakes. None of them is a good defender but SD is bigger and therefor less of a target on defense (comes handy because Mavs are switching a lot). If Kidd really likes a guy for such a role, than this could be a player Mavs would be looking for on the market, as SD is really not that good playing it. Someone who can play 20 minutes on and off ball and is big enough to not be a complete defensive liability. And is of course on a small contract.

Still, if they don't see a role for Hardy, because they prefer a bigger third creator, still not sure why handing out the contract. Might be they mainly see him as a contract that will be useful to trade next season.

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(Yesterday, 11:58 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Exum

Showed he can be a huge liability on offense during whole playoffs last season. I am not even sure he will get a chance unless there will be injuries and I think he will have to be very assertive on offense to get into rotation.

Seems to me Mavs are done with guys who are limited on offense. They want to be dangerous from all positions.
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I am a card carrying Hardy member. I don't think he has been good to start the season. Difficult for him though. Like a lot of scorers, he is a rhythm player and it is tough to get into a groove when there minutes are not there. Regardless, when you do get chances, you need to hit the mark. He hasn't. I think he is best used as a spark to get buckets. That role is just not really that important to the current team though....especially when we are healthy.

I am thinking for the first time, that he really doesn't have a role here long term. Although maybe with an injury he gets an extended run and makes it impossible not to be in the rotation. Or he beats out Dinwiddie. That is going to be difficult. He will get some chances though. We will see. I think it is probably more important that Omax turns into a rotation player than Hardy for this team. Omax is another issue....he needs a lot of work and playing time (the playing time is going to be hard to get).

I firmly believe 6 million for Hardy is a good deal. He does play a role that isn't greatly valued in the NBA, unless you are really good. I we were to move Hardy, I think him, our first round pick (when we can trade) and an expiring Maxi this offseason could be attractive to teams for a certain player.
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