01-15-2024, 09:49 AM
(01-14-2024, 10:44 PM)F Gump Wrote: Well thought out and reasonably possible idea imo (although fyi I believe the two-trade aspect isn't needed to net the TPE).
THJ-Maxi FOR WCJ-Ingles-SRP
In theory you might want to send Holmes rather than Maxi, if you think Maxi has any future potential to contribute here. (From ORL perspective, taking Holmes is less salary to have to accept, and any C they get is probably going to play much anyhow. Holmes actually offers DAL a bigger TPE, too.)
Interesting. Yeah, the inclusion of Maxi was strictly an attempt to get the TPE. So, if Holmes accomplishes the same thing, then I can see both teams preferring that construct. The core of the deal is THJ for WCJ. Orlando could use Hardaway's shooting and Dallas can use Carter's two position ability at the 4/5. If healthy, I'd argue his ability to defend two positions, hit 3's and rebound puts him very high on the list of usual suspects in Dallas trade rumors...very high. I agree with Dr. Surfpuck. If health wasn't a concern, he'd be the best player in the deal.
Ingles takes up some of the role Hardaway currently plays and has a very flexible contract situation. I don't think Ingles is any worse than THJ on a per minute basis, but you probably can't get the minutes out of him that THJ gets and maintain that level of play. To the extent Carter gets some minutes at the PF, you shift some of DJJ's time to the wing and now have Ingles, DJJ, Green and Exum to absorb whatever 1, 2, 3 minutes Kyrie and Luka don't eat. I don't think Hardy/Seth's role has to change (especially if Holmes goes out instead of Maxi or GWill).
The last piece is flexible for me. Dallas needs to add salary to stay under the tax. Any of Holmes, Maxi or GWill works, but only Maxi keeps Orlando under the cap at the end of the trade. So, that's the direction I went. Also, Mosley coached Maxi. He didn't coach Holmes or GWill. Another thing this does (especially the Holmes outgoing version) is it turns THJ into two players on a team that is already deep. I think that's a good thing as we look to the future. If this doesn't cost us a pick or a youngster we have too many guys going into 24/25. I think you want that so that if you do a deal for a high dollar player this summer you need to still have depth. Between Carter, Powell, Maxi, DJJ, OMax, GWill, Ingles, Green, Exum and Hardy you have 10 guys to go along with Luka, Kyrie and Lively. You can do a 3 for 1 using your future draft picks and still be very deep.