(01-05-2024, 07:27 AM)omahen Wrote: I don't think Siakam is supermax worth. It would also be a bit problematic after Doncic gets his supermax. But, if Siakam is the one player that makes Mavs a contender, I wouldn't oppose it. Meaning, if Mavs get at least one title after the trade, it was fully worth it. If not, it would be of course a fail. It would take more contracts to make the trade happen, but still doable. Toronto would need to be sure they get at least same level of assets compared to trading him at TDL.
I don't mind waiting for him for half a year, if they would have a "wink, wink" deal with Toronto and Siakam. Mavs still imho need Lively to get a bit of an experience, so I don't think they become a serious contender this season, even if they add Siakam. Sure, they would have a chance if things would go right, but a lot of things would need to go right.
As a final note. I don't think such a wink, wink deal would be realistic. Too risky for all parties as each of them could change their mind, leaving the other two partners with nothing.
I must have written something wrong. I'm talking about a trade now, with the sort of assets already being discussed, that includes an extension. In theory you could give the extension in the summer, after trading for him and risking competitors, but I would not. That choice doesn't solve the problems of "I won't re-sign with you" and of the competitors in FA.
I agree that an under-the-table agreement is not a good idea. I don't even know how that would work.
The dollar value of an extend-and-trade is a tad smaller than a 2-year max as a FA, but not by a big amount, and it puts him in the same dollar vicinity as both Kyrie and Luka. And the 2 years is a quicker route for him getting to 35% eligibility for the next deal.
.... As a side note, that doesn't mean he will get 35% in 2 years, but the point he needs to hear is that it's way more likely to be available for him in 2 years rather than 4. And if he's a good fit with Luka, Kyrie, and Lively, it would raise his market value, thus increasing the likelihood
As for how all those max contracts could possibly fit, this would have the Mavs playing the "jump into over-apron territory with big raises" and then stay a while. It can work if you have enough talent already collected.