08-18-2023, 10:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-18-2023, 10:58 AM by michaeltex.)
(08-18-2023, 10:11 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: So you're saying a player's value is completely mystical until you come across a specific trade scenario, and even then it's at least nebulous? Or is this just traded-in players? Do you agree that Lively's value is the #12 pick, or is the value of recently drafted players equally mystical?
Isn't player value a variable defined by the context of a proposed trade and the needs of the involved teams? So, yeah, it could be defined as nebulous, although I'd call it fluid in that the value assumes the shape of the space defined by the team needs.
The KP deal was done to put a current All Star together with a future All Star in hopes of establishing a contending core and that hope was worth investment of all those players and draft picks. But it took more picks to trade him away after it didn't work out. But now he's a positive going into Boston.
Holmes was a negative value, to SAC, in that they needed cap space and he didn't fit their future plans. To DAL, he was a positive in that he (potentially) addresses a need and provided the means to pick up a 2nd FRP in Omax (which was on NOBODY's radar going into the draft), who looks like a contributor. His outgoing future value is TBD depending on the needs of the teams involved.
Everybody had Bertan's as a negative value, and he was, but the value loss was to only drop 2 places and still get a guy targeted going into the night. So the negative wasn't a full FRP as a lot of us thought it might be.
Of course, it wouldn't hurt if Holmes can demonstrate he's still got some gas in the tank.