08-09-2023, 01:23 AM
(08-08-2023, 05:01 PM)mvossman Wrote: My issue is with your methodology, so asking me to provide different numbers using your same methodology does not make sense.
If I were going to put value on players in a trade, it would be simpler to say what they would cost in assets. Something like:
Allen: Somewhere between one and two firsts
Timmy: Roughly neutral. Might require a second or two going out
Holmes: negative. Less than a first going out
I really don't understand where you are going with this concept of cost. If you are suggesting that we did not invest in Lively because we essentially got that pick for "free" then I think you are looking at it completely wrong.
You are wildly missing my point regrading the 27 pick. Its value is based on what other teams think it might possibly be. I'm not predicting what I think that pick will end up being. I am predicting what I think other teams think it might end up being. Teams tend to pay a premium on picks (particularly unprotected ones) when you don't know where they will land yet. And its not hard to imagine teams betting against this FO.
Ya, I don't quite get your logic, but that's fine. You really don't understand the difference between cost and value, but that dead horse is beaten. Ditto for the 27FRP. Again, if that pick is anywhere near the lottery, we have lost Luka and the franchise is a smoking pile of shit. You don't bet against yourself thinking you'll perpetually be picking in the lottery. See CLT. See DET. See ORL. Those are examples you want to avoid, not emulate.