08-08-2023, 03:08 PM
(08-08-2023, 02:43 PM)mvossman Wrote: I am being vague regarding player values because player values are vague. They depend on a lot of outside factors and vary based on circumstances.
Lively was not little to no cost. It was a lottery pick, which are very scarce. His cost was significantly more than Omax (if we wanted to trade into the lottery, we would have had to take on way more salary than we did for Omax).
Lots of things can happen in 3 years and catastrophic injuries are always a concern in the year for that pick. That picks value is all about how other teams value it. My guess is its value would roughly equivalent to late lottery, but it could be more depending on how down other teams are on this FO.
Your disagreement isn't vague, but your reasoning is... which is convenient. You said I'm wrong, so step out there and correct me with your numbers.
You are confusing cost (what did it actually cost you?) with value (what is it worth?). If your friend gives you a $100k car, the cost is $0 and the worth is $100k. Lively's cost was tanking, getting rid of Bertans, and $4.7m/yr. OMax's cost was Holmes' $12m/yr and $2.7m.
Again, if we want Luka to stay, the 27FRP can't be anywhere near the lottery. To not make us better in the next 3 years because you think we'll suck in 3 years is a self-fulfilling prophecy and why horrible franchises stay horrible.