08-08-2023, 12:07 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-08-2023, 12:09 PM by KillerLeft.)
(08-08-2023, 10:10 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: You don't think THJ is an $11m/yr player or you don't think J.Allen is a $30m/yr player?
Neither, especially Allen being worth $30m/yr.
More to the point, the hangup you have about what you think of their true contractual worth isn't really the "aha" puzzle piece you seem to believe. A player underplaying or overplaying their ACTUAL contract factors into their desirability, absolutely. That's a relatively simple concept you're unnecessarily complicating, I think.
Even MORE more to the point, the Mavs don't need a center badly enough to spend Green or Hardy AND that unprotected '27. I don't think they need one badly enough to spend even one of those assets. You keep acting like Lively isn't going make a dent for three years. I suppose you might be right about that, but I can GUARANTEE the Mavs don't see it that way. That's basically his entire first contract. So, given where they were with the overall roster and that position, specifically, when the pick was made, it seems rather apparent that they expect him to contribute sooner.
I would love to have Allen, don't get me wrong, but I don't think the combo of Powell, Holmes and especially Kleber is the end of the world, and I think Lively is probably making a fairly significant contribution in year 2. If Lively can't contribute something in year 2, that was a bad pick. But, they need to find out before they send the last good assets they have out on another center.
(08-08-2023, 10:10 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Do I think that J.Allen is worth Maxi/J.Green/27FRP/28SRP? I do.
I do not. He's not a difference maker, even among defensive centers. Maybe I'd feel differently if he didn't just ruin his team's playoff run. Lord knows one playoff run isn't the end of any player's story - he could be better in the future, but the level of trade compensation you're suggesting might get you in the conversation for someone like Siakim.