07-18-2023, 01:37 PM
(07-18-2023, 01:13 PM)The Jom Wrote: This seems to me like a strange way to support your argument. It’s a combo of 2 very different stats—one entirely about offense and one entirely about defense. If we take the top 2 offenders (Dame and Kawhi), both outliers statistically, it’s pretty clear their max contracts are due to offense and not defense. If we look at the top 2 defenders (Alex and Derrick), both outliers too, it’s obviously not their offense that gets em paid, and obvious that their pay is nowhere close to any of the rest of the group, all of whom are way better offensively.
Yes, Josh today is closer to Alex and Dwight than to Dame and Kawhi in many, many ways. But if you’re suggesting he won’t get paid based on his offense, I’m not following the logic. And if you’re saying this combo stat is a fair way to value players, the guys who write the NBA contracts plainly don’t agree.
Or maybe I just misunderstand the point you’re making?
Just pointing out that both Hardy and Green have a long way to go to even get into the conversation if we are looking at impact metrics. When I read that Green is more or less the same player and already more efficient on offense I start to question my sanity. Impact metrics are a good way to account for all the stuff that isn´t showing up in the boxscore.
As far as my overall interpretation of RAPM goes. In the same role as a first or second option on offense Caruso would obviously never be as good as the rest of the guys on the list. But in his role as glue guy and swiss-army knife he has a big impact on the game.
Going back to the initial trade proposal one would have to be really high on Green or Hardy (similar impact within the next three years) not to inlcude them in a potential trade package. Going back even further to Stein´s post from the deadline it explains why the Bulls asked for (probably still want) two first round picks in return.