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Trade & FA 2023-24: Stein-Ingram Trade Inevitable| LAL Want Lebron Back On Any Terms
(07-10-2023, 03:22 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: If it makes you feel any better, Holmes was the 16th ranked center by 538’s Raptor WAR measure two seasons ago when he actually played (Powell was 30th last season).  If you look at EPM, Powell’s 83 ranks ahead of 12 of the guys on your list.  I’m not going to argue that Powell is the 18th best center based on that single metric.  

I’ll say what I’ve always said.  Powell is one of the best backup centers in the league.  He has a skill set that is hard to replicate (being consistently in the 90+ percentile as a roll-man means by definition that you are really good at it).  I’ve argued that the team wins when he plays (+6.2 on court last season and +9.3 On-Off) and ultimately the goal here is winning games rather than individual stats.  He shoots incredibly efficiently (which is part of why the advanced stats love him, WS = 5.3).  

The offense is better when he plays (7.5 points) and the defense is better when he plays (-2.4).  Both of those numbers are from 82games.com.   Now, 82games.com shows he gets absolutely brutalized by his direct opponent at center.  The dichotomy between getting abused and still winning is part of what makes Powell so difficult to grade.  Same goes for rebounding.  He’s terrible at it from a totals standpoint.  But, when he plays the team gets 49.8 percent of all rebounds and when he doesn’t play the team gets 45.5 percent.  BTW, that is much better than the 18/10 guy so many here love (team rebounding goes down when he plays…so does the winning).  I’d love Powell to be flashier and put up better individual numbers.  But the reason he keeps getting minutes is the team does TEAM things better when he is on the court.

Very well done. The stats you use here do the best job I’ve seen describing our smart and liked by the players Stanford man (and future team executive).  He is usually in the right place, boxes out his guy so others like Luka can rebound. He tips a lot of balls because getting the ball himself is a weakness. He is a descent perimeter defender for a center and doesn’t get played off the floor for his perimeter defense. He does get played off by his other limitations sometimes so….we have to really develop Holmes and hopefully our future answer at center. 

I foresee center rotation being determined by matchups and who is playing well at center. It will require good coaching. It won’t be easy but watching certain rotation TEAM progress this year will be very important. 

Dwight Powell brings an incredible bargain as part of the center rotation. He does defend certain players very well. One surprising one is KAT I’ve watched that match up multiple times. He can make Townes pass it and destroy their play. 

Powell hate needs to go away and replaced with strong support for whoever we end up with at center.
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