06-27-2023, 05:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-27-2023, 05:35 PM by DanSchwartzgan.)
There is some confusion about new CBA "aggregation" rules regarding Ayton on another board. It was suggested that after 7/1/23, Ayton can't be traded with multiple players coming back. This is not a concern for 2023. It is a second apron thing, but it doesn't start until the 24/25 season.
In that season, if you are over the second apron, you can't aggregate up or down (can't turn two players into one in a trade and can't turn one into two). That is a big deal because not only are you competitively punished for spending that much, but you have few avenues to fix your mistake. But again, a 24 thing, not a 23 thing. If they really were relatively close to an Ayton trade that included Holmes we know:
1. All the positioning about new coach looking forward to working with him is BS.
2. This was after the drafting of Lively (or we wouldn't have had Holmes to trade).
I did the match and with Irving at $40mm to start, we cross the first apron if we don't include McGee as outgoing (not by much though, so it could be fixed by fine tuning Kyrie down a bit more (though we don't even know if $40mm is a real thing or not). If McGee is outgoing, then we can have the N-TP MLE. In fact, there are a few extra dollars to give to Kyrie or use in a trade spread with Bullock outgoing or use to keep a 15th player on the roster.
Clock is ticking on Reggie. If you don't pick up his guarantee, it has a similar impact to trading McGee if you don't S/W him. You have to account for dead money and a minimum slot to replace him. But with Irving at $40mm, 14 spots and Reggie just straight waived, I have us at $169mm. We will have moved off of two wings in THJ and Reggie, but we only need one and the MLE can provide that.
Absolutely. PJ attractive? Sure. But at that cost. No way.
In that season, if you are over the second apron, you can't aggregate up or down (can't turn two players into one in a trade and can't turn one into two). That is a big deal because not only are you competitively punished for spending that much, but you have few avenues to fix your mistake. But again, a 24 thing, not a 23 thing. If they really were relatively close to an Ayton trade that included Holmes we know:
1. All the positioning about new coach looking forward to working with him is BS.
2. This was after the drafting of Lively (or we wouldn't have had Holmes to trade).
I did the match and with Irving at $40mm to start, we cross the first apron if we don't include McGee as outgoing (not by much though, so it could be fixed by fine tuning Kyrie down a bit more (though we don't even know if $40mm is a real thing or not). If McGee is outgoing, then we can have the N-TP MLE. In fact, there are a few extra dollars to give to Kyrie or use in a trade spread with Bullock outgoing or use to keep a 15th player on the roster.
Clock is ticking on Reggie. If you don't pick up his guarantee, it has a similar impact to trading McGee if you don't S/W him. You have to account for dead money and a minimum slot to replace him. But with Irving at $40mm, 14 spots and Reggie just straight waived, I have us at $169mm. We will have moved off of two wings in THJ and Reggie, but we only need one and the MLE can provide that.
(06-27-2023, 05:19 PM)mvossman Wrote: I didn't say we shouldn't be looking at PJ, I said an unprotected first is too much, especially considering its coming around the time Luka might force himself out if things go south. That pick is crazy valuable and my preference would be that it gets used to add the final piece, not for another quality rotational player.
Absolutely. PJ attractive? Sure. But at that cost. No way.
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