05-29-2023, 11:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-29-2023, 11:44 AM by Ghost of Podkolzin.)
(05-29-2023, 09:10 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Interesting idea from "Sir Charles in Charge" site. Plays off of SA's desire to move into the top 10 (presumably to draft a guard):
#10/Bertans for Collins/Graham and Atlanta's 2025.
SA has up to 7 first round picks between 23, 24 and 25. So, it doesn't have to be this pick. Collins is UFA a year from now. He's an interesting name we haven't talked about. Spreads the floor some. Switchable defender (fits scheme) who also blocks some shots. Not a great rebounder and extensive injury history. He has routinely been a net positive on-court even with bad teams. Graham could be the third guard behind Luka and Kyrie. He has two seasons left at about MLE money, but second season is only guaranteed for $2.8mm (so a very positive asset at the TDL).
My question would be whether you'd rather have the depth with Graham, or no returning salary and a TE. It feels like the Collins/Bertans/picks parts of this would be good for both teams (except, you just can't count on Collins being an 82 game guy). Given the value of Graham as an expiring deal (essentially), I'd probably take him. The pick doesn't have to be the Atlanta pick. I'd be very interested in adding SA's #33 as part of this.
Collins Powell McGee
Luka Maxi Morris
Green Reggie Lawson
THJ Hardy Holiday
Irving Graham #33
Note, this team didn't need to spend the MLE and is under the tax. It can trade a chunk of salary between Reggie and Graham at the TDL along with the Atlanta 2025 first and the Dallas 2027.
BTW, if one wanted to still do a deal for Ayton, doing it at the same time as the rest of this makes the deal large enough that THJ/McGee is a trade match for Ayton without the need to include Green.
IMO, Collins is an early retirement candidate. That finger that refuses to heal scares me. He had his worst season last year since his rookie year. As you mention he's not a good rebounder.
(05-29-2023, 11:26 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Oh yeah, we definitely don't agree on this. JG is exactly what everyone is looking for. +D, high percentage on 3's. Can destroy closeouts, runs the floor and a good mover of the ball. I literally wouldn't trade him for DFS AND a late first round pick. People have underappreciated him from the beginning because of who he wasn't. But what he has become is incredibly valuable.
Unrelated to your idea (but related to Brooklyn), I've cooled considerably to the idea of dumping salary to them. They need to get under the tax this season (repeater) and signing Cam Johnson and taking on a salary into their TPE (like Bertans) isn't going to allow that to happen.
That leaves SA as the only team that can facilitate a salary dump before 7/1 ($22.1mm according to Spotrac). If it turns out we really aren't meeting with guys who might go at #10 and are meeting with guys in the late first or early second, I'd keep an eye on SA. I really like some things about the SCIC trade idea I posted above. It requires us to think of improvement as a two step process with the second step being what we can get from trading picks and using expiring contracts like Graham and Reggie. BTW, you know who is a trade match for Graham + Reggie? Draymond. Front court is now Draymond, Collins and Maxi. Mix and match any combination. All of them are very switchable. D goes up dramatically.
Agreed. Green's productivity will increase. It's that effective (low output albeit) production that tells me that.