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Trade & FA 2023-24: Stein-Ingram Trade Inevitable| LAL Want Lebron Back On Any Terms
(05-07-2023, 11:34 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think it is important to consider PHX current spot on these trades (most have).  PHX is probably in a 3-4 year window (If KD can stay healthy and at his current level of play) and they are void with assets making internal improvement very difficult.  They also have a new owner who I am sure had grand plans.  So any move to trade Ayton needs to be a clear upgrade to them.  This will be difficult if Ayton does not play better, but I don't think new owner will be breaking out his spreadsheet with the goal of getting Howard Eisley.

Agree - which is why I don't think Ayton is worth the pursuit.

He's a $15-18M player perhaps, with a $32M contract. For THREE years. He is very limited (perhaps unplayable) in the playoffs. That's why he doesn't work in PHX. They knew this already, but paid him that huge deal to retain an "asset" (presumably to cash in the value later). He is who he is. And he eats up $32M.

BUT to get him, PHX wants you to give them good assets -- iow they wont want to pay you somehow to remove that bad contract. Yet you can't afford to GIVE good assets for a hugely overpaid guy who isn't a huge solution (particularly in playoffs) and who clogs your cap from getting the players you really need for THREE years. He would come with great acclaim, no doubt, because juicy regular season stats, but actually would set you backwards. Does sound like a Cuban thing, gotta admit.
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