02-15-2023, 11:36 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2023, 11:38 AM by DanSchwartzgan.)
Thinking some more about the conversation over the weekend about the summer and the difficulty of S&T’s given our proximity to the Apron…I have a new thought. In fact, I’ll call it a stone-cold lock:
Myles Turner
Our need for a center, especially one who plays D, protects the rim some and doesn’t necessarily clog the lane, is pretty clear. Indy has done some interesting things that I think supports the idea of a pre-determined Turner trade.
*When they did his renegotiation and extend (a rarely used technique), it was thought they would give him enough in 2022-23 to get to the minimum salary. This was money they had to spend anyway. BUT, they went slightly over that. There was no real need to go above the minimum team salary number. In fact, it could have hurt them at the TDL as it ate into available cap room (room they used to pick up Nwora, G. Hill and a slew of seconds).
*Going over the minimum salary changes the math on the next two years. Turner’s next year salary is exactly the 40% decline that is allowable by rule. If they had simply gone up the the minimum, they would have had to give Turner more in the out years to get to the same number (I think the ‘perception’ of $30mm/year was important to both Turner and agent). The out year number matters in two scenarios. 1. It changes the amount of cap room Indy will have in the summer. But, they already had a ton and aren’t typically a free agent destination. 2. They already have a trade targeted for Turner and needed to hit a specific number.
*Part of the transactions last week included waiving Goga…a young center that Carlisle seems to like. He is back on the squad again after Indy waived Ibaka.
The way I see this working is Bertans and firsts in 25 and 27 (or 24/26) for Turner. I think it is essentially pre-arranged. The math on the Turner deal is almost an exact match for Bertans number in 23/24. In fact, it wouldn’t have been so had Indy paid up to the minimum in 22/23 and more in the out years. Bertans is essentially an expiring contract. In fact, Dallas can pay Indy cash for the $5mm Bertans is owed in 24/25 as long as Indy controls his games played. By next season, the rotation looks like
Turner. Powell/McGee
Luka. Maxi
Green. Bullock
THJ. Hardy
Irving. LD/KI
The only other ways to add talent would be TP-MLE, Minimums and a Wood S&T. I would presume they bring back some inexpensive guys like Frank and Pinson.
Myles Turner
Our need for a center, especially one who plays D, protects the rim some and doesn’t necessarily clog the lane, is pretty clear. Indy has done some interesting things that I think supports the idea of a pre-determined Turner trade.
*When they did his renegotiation and extend (a rarely used technique), it was thought they would give him enough in 2022-23 to get to the minimum salary. This was money they had to spend anyway. BUT, they went slightly over that. There was no real need to go above the minimum team salary number. In fact, it could have hurt them at the TDL as it ate into available cap room (room they used to pick up Nwora, G. Hill and a slew of seconds).
*Going over the minimum salary changes the math on the next two years. Turner’s next year salary is exactly the 40% decline that is allowable by rule. If they had simply gone up the the minimum, they would have had to give Turner more in the out years to get to the same number (I think the ‘perception’ of $30mm/year was important to both Turner and agent). The out year number matters in two scenarios. 1. It changes the amount of cap room Indy will have in the summer. But, they already had a ton and aren’t typically a free agent destination. 2. They already have a trade targeted for Turner and needed to hit a specific number.
*Part of the transactions last week included waiving Goga…a young center that Carlisle seems to like. He is back on the squad again after Indy waived Ibaka.
The way I see this working is Bertans and firsts in 25 and 27 (or 24/26) for Turner. I think it is essentially pre-arranged. The math on the Turner deal is almost an exact match for Bertans number in 23/24. In fact, it wouldn’t have been so had Indy paid up to the minimum in 22/23 and more in the out years. Bertans is essentially an expiring contract. In fact, Dallas can pay Indy cash for the $5mm Bertans is owed in 24/25 as long as Indy controls his games played. By next season, the rotation looks like
Turner. Powell/McGee
Luka. Maxi
Green. Bullock
THJ. Hardy
Irving. LD/KI
The only other ways to add talent would be TP-MLE, Minimums and a Wood S&T. I would presume they bring back some inexpensive guys like Frank and Pinson.
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