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2023 DRAFT: Mavs take Lively, OMP, sign Mike Miles to 2-way, sign Jordan Walker
(06-22-2023, 08:55 PM)cow Wrote: Knowing nothing about college hoops, Lively seems like a polarizing pick for this board.

He's going to be out of the league in 5 years mark my words.
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Lakers taking Jalen Hood

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...1735474183
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(06-22-2023, 08:55 PM)cow Wrote: Knowing nothing about college hoops, Lively seems like a polarizing pick for this board.

The fact the sun will rise in the morning is a polarizing assertion for this board.
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(06-22-2023, 08:55 PM)cow Wrote: Knowing nothing about college hoops, Lively seems like a polarizing pick for this board.

He has the body for what we need
We'll see how his mind comes along
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(06-22-2023, 08:56 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: It's kinda like the NBA, but younger and not as good.

It's too painful to watch.  I've tried.
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(06-22-2023, 08:52 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I like the thinking guys.  Some good names.  Wiseman and their second round pick?  Jonathan Isaac and pick 36?  Rob Williams?

Robinson + #18 ?

Powell + #30?
We just paid a whole lot of money to a guy that went 9-29 (31%) on FG and 3-20 (15%) 3-pt% in both our win or go home elimination games last couple of playoffs. SMH 
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(06-22-2023, 08:55 PM)cow Wrote: Knowing nothing about college hoops, Lively seems like a polarizing pick for this board.

He really might be a TY starter kit. That part is true. 

The problem comes into play when you remember that it took Chandler like 5-7 years to become a good player. Hell, he wasn't even on his original team when he started to figure it out. So, not great help RIGHT NOW. 

I don't hate it. He's the right TYPE of center, at least.
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Sources: Lakers are selecting Jalen Hood-Schifino at No. 17.
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(06-22-2023, 08:54 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Remember, doesn’t necessarily have to fit the TPE.  $21.35mm trade match at 25% or $18.8mm trade match in July depending on which team you are dealing with.

Let´s remember only Jalen Brunson changed teams above the MLE last summer. A $19M TPE is getting somebody paid that would otherwise have to settle for the $12M full MLE. That´s a significant difference.
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(06-22-2023, 08:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: He really might be a TY starter kit. That part is true. 

The problem comes into play when you remember that it took Chandler like 5-7 years to become a good player. Hell, he wasn't even on his original team when he started to figure it out. So, not great help RIGHT NOW. 

I don't hate it. He's the right TYPE of center, at least.

Sold. TC is my guy.
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(06-22-2023, 08:56 PM)omahen Wrote: Lakers taking Jalen Hood

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...1735474183

Thank the lord they didn't take Cam. I wouldn't be able to stomach him prosper on the Laers.
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Maybe we can sign Christian Wood for the vet min.
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I'll say this: the Mavs have become a sort of low-key good drafting team. They have won some cautions benefit of the doubt from me with their scouting department since Finley came on board.

Luka...Brunson...Green...Hardy.

Not bad.
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(06-22-2023, 08:57 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Let´s remember only Jalen Brunson changed teams above the MLE last summer. A $19M TPE is getting somebody paid that would otherwise have to settle for the $12M full MLE. That´s a significant difference.

But you still need his team to play along. You can't just sign a FA in TPE. Mavs only assets are cash, Hardy/Green and 2027 pick.
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I would love for it to be Grant Williams. Perfect glue player with this roster. Than Naz Reid for the filial MLE.

I just wonder how easily Boston is going to let Williams go.
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(06-22-2023, 08:59 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Thank the lord they didn't take Cam. I wouldn't be able to stomach him prosper on the Laers.

Whitmore will be going to the Nets. They have two picks. They gamble with one of them. Or Denver again, haha.  Denver does a MPJ 2.0 literally and takes Whitmore and Whitehead.
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(06-22-2023, 09:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'll say this: the Mavs have become a sort of low-key good drafting team. They have won some cautions benefit of the doubt from me with their scouting department since Finley came on board.

Luka...Brunson...Green...Hardy.

Not bad.

I'm not sure I'd put Green in the win column just yet.
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(06-22-2023, 08:54 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Remember, doesn’t necessarily have to fit the TPE.  $21.35mm trade match at 25% or $18.8mm trade match in July depending on which team you are dealing with.

24.5M (17 + 7.5) under new rules, if I understand correctly ...which opens up a whole world of possibilities (incl Allen, Capela, Brogdon, etc)

IMPORTANT note, if you're trying to figure out who they might target -- Mavs are looking for a player that they can use, who comes with a pick attached to his leg. So this TPE use would not be a free agent to be targeted via SNT, but rather an existing contract where the team will pay you a pick. (With a free agent, the prior team doesn't pay anyone to take him if they don't want him, he just walks.) In all likelihood, he comes from a team with cap issues, or who needs to free up room to afford a different trade.
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(06-22-2023, 09:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'll say this: the Mavs have become a sort of low-key good drafting team. They have won some cautions benefit of the doubt from me with their scouting department since Finley came on board.

Luka...Brunson...Green...Hardy.

Not bad.

I doubt this has anything to do with Finley.

Luka/Brunson was Donnie/Carlisle - ready made picks.
Green was just a FO mess.
Hardy + Lively are Nico.
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Lively and Grant Williams would be a very "we needed a C and PF and that's all we could get with our assets" offseason.

That team is a 1st round exit.
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