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For some reason i keep seeing different on off defensive numbers. I thought Luka was closer to neutral this year. 

Dinwiddie plays almost 100% of the non-Luka minutes and Hardaway plays almost exclusively with Luka. I don’t see how this wouldn’t impact on/off numbers when we struggle so much eith Luka off the floor. I don’t think either player is a positive defensively, especially in isolation. Dinwiddie’s skill set is more needed though. And he’s the better shooter. Hardaway does try harder though. Kind of makes up for his physical limitations

well, the wowy combos are like that. pbstats has Mavs with Luka + SD on the floor at 119.60 DefRtg. And Luka lineups without SD at 109.74 DefRtg. Which is basically best D in the league without SD and worst D in the league with SD. 


Luka + SD + THJ (no Wood) -> +6.45 net

Luka + THJ + Wood (no SD) -> +19.92 net 
Luka + SD + Wood (no THJ) -> -19.78 net

SD + THJ + Wood (no Luka) -> -10.26 net


And its mainly been defense that causing near insane swings. Luka + SD + Wood (no THJ) looks more like unplayable from a defensive stand point, breaking negative records on D. Maybe Green + DFS could fix that, but SD is causing major trouble with his defense just from a sheer impact stand point. pbstats has that wowy combo at 132.45 DefRtg.

Luka + SD is basically looking like a Luka + Trae pairing without having Trae on the team. And just the major downside of Trae without Trae's offense.

Defense is 100 % the reason why SD's impact looking highly questionable on the data/numbers. He seems to be single handily killing lineups on defense the most out of anyone on the roster.



I wouldn't mind seeing the team without Spencer for 5-10 games if that trend continues. Where you start Luka / Green / THJ / DFS / Wood and experiment with Wright/Hardy/Green handling PG duties. 

Its a bold statement but looking at the numbers you could easily make the argument that Spencer as a starter is currently holding this team back the most from a pure ceiling stand point. And he is lowkey one of the worst fits next to Luka from the high minutes guys.

And he is doing way more harm than good when Luka is on the floor. Team defense last season was imo a bigger reason for the success than the Mavs offense. And the s5 had Luka + Brunson + Bullock (the none washed version) + DFS + Kleber. And SD making Brunson look like a a good defender in comparison.