(07-29-2022, 09:04 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: 1 I’m traveling and don’t have access to the spread sheet I was working from. I had it a little over $100k short if memory serves. No telling what the difference is that has me a hair over and you a hair under.
2 I wasn’t really trying to just trade THJ for Kemba. I considered the goal to be Sexton and I have Detroit sending out one of its inexpensive recent draft picks. So, in essence it is Kemba/Lee or Kemba/Livers with Lee or Livers ending up in Detroit as part of the package for Sexton. It is really hard to value THJ. I can see a fit in Detroit, but at what price? Does he command assets in return? I honestly don’t know.
4 I do like Burks in this deal better than Kemba. I like Burks in any deal better than Kemba. If you do him instead of Kemba, Detroit will definitely have to send out some more salary. I agree that Cleveland doesn’t want to pay tax (I mentioned it) and has to overcome BYC (mentioned that too). Depending on where Sexton ends up dollar wise, they have to bridge the trade matching gap with another outgoing salary to somewhere. But, with the numbers I’m talking about, it doesn’t have to be a very large salary. I’m envisioning that player going to Utah as part of a larger deal when Mitchell finally goes to NY. But, it could be salary to a team with a TPE or cap room also.
There are a lot of moving pieces, but I actually think the trick is getting Sexton to agree to a term. Dallas would want a 2+1 I’m guessing and Sexton at those dollars would want to be free ASAP. Schwartz is the agent, but following the last Kemba fiasco, I’ve not noticed any proof that he and Cuban share most favored nation status any more. As you indicate, this is MUCH easier if you don’t have to work around the S&T rules and can just trade match for someone like Rose.
1 "I’m traveling and don’t have access to the spread sheet I was working from. I had it a little over $100k short if memory serves. No telling what the difference is that has me a hair over and you a hair under."..... Did you remember that a cap-room trade works if it leaves DET at no more than "cap + 100K"? That may be the missing piece.
2 "I wasn’t really trying to just trade THJ for Kemba. I considered the goal to be Sexton and I have Detroit sending out one of its inexpensive recent draft picks."... I get that part. I just think that ending up with both Sexton and Kemba wouldn't make sense for Dallas.
3 "I do like Burks in this deal better than Kemba. I like Burks in any deal better than Kemba. If you do him instead of Kemba, Detroit will definitely have to send out some more salary."... I don't understand this. Why? THJ-Burks leaves DET even more below the cap than THJ-Kemba-X. Did you mean to say that the team being forced to send out more salary somewhere would be DAL? I can see that. See below.
4 "Depending on where Sexton ends up dollar wise, they have to bridge the trade matching gap with another outgoing salary to somewhere. But, with the numbers I’m talking about, it doesn’t have to be a very large salary ....I actually think the trick is getting Sexton to agree to a term" ... I agree that the particulars of a Sexton deal would be one of the biggest hurdles. But it's mainly going to be about the dollars, I think, and not years. A 2+1 deal wouldn't be part of the discussion, since a snt has to be 3 years not including any option year.
Putting numbers to see if we can fill in the blanks in a workable way: I think this was where you landed -- If Cleveland ends up with Powell, Frank or Green and Livers, you can start Sexton at $14mm-$16mm depending on whether it is Frank or Green and depending on how much room you want under the apron for flexibility.
In trying to reverse engineer a trade, and just plug in made up contracts, I end up thinking the trickiest issue would be how to make work where Dallas ends up. The push-pull will be between DAL staying under the hard cap, and Sexton getting enough to want the deal.