ROSTER TALK: Mavs favs for Vogel if no HC job exists. Kyrie handshake deal?

[DanSchwartzgan]

I have fiddled a bit with Sexton ideas, but I keep coming back to the obstacle of multiple rules that get in the way. As I quickly peruse your thoughts, a few questions:

1  A bit of mathiness for future reference -- I do show that DET could do THJ-Kemba into cap room, using Spotrac numbers, but my math may be off, I dunno. By my maths, the fit is very tight, to be sure - only $1,579 left over. But my bigger question on that end is, why would Mavs do THJ for Kemba, if they are getting Sexton (which would make Kemba useless)?
2 So I think the DET preparation would have to be THJ-for-Burks, which doesn't get you under the apron before doing Sexton, but you're close enough (only about 200K over).
3 But then, on the Sexton end, you are never getting $5M of latitude anyhow -- you were only getting a cushion of 575K or less. Now with Burks from DET, the Sexton salary has to be LESS than what you send out for the CLE end of things. As you note, this means yet another team in the mix to take some of that salary, since CLE can't take it all.
4 CLE would have two issues to deal with - one is BY on Sexton, and the other is total payroll. Their reported offer to Sexton (about 12.6M) is at a number that leaves them under the tax (they are about 13M under), and I bet that's their limit. But is Powell + Frank enough (the most they can take while staying under the tax line) enough to make them interested?

At the end of the day, I keep ending up thinking there are too many mouths to feed, to make Sexton workable.

I’m traveling and don’t have access to the spread sheet I was working from.  I had it a little over $100k short if memory serves.  No telling what the difference is that has me a hair over and you a hair under.

I wasn’t really trying to just trade THJ for Kemba.  I considered the goal to be Sexton and I have Detroit sending out one of its inexpensive recent draft picks.  So, in essence it is Kemba/Lee or Kemba/Livers with Lee or Livers ending up in Detroit as part of the package for Sexton.  It is really hard to value THJ.  I can see a fit in Detroit, but at what price?  Does he command assets in return?  I honestly don’t know.

I do like Burks in this deal better than Kemba.  I like Burks in any deal better than Kemba.  If you do him instead of Kemba, Detroit will definitely have to send out some more salary.  I agree that Cleveland doesn’t want to pay tax (I mentioned it) and has to overcome BYC (mentioned that too).  Depending on where Sexton ends up dollar wise, they have to bridge the trade matching gap with another outgoing salary to somewhere.  But, with the numbers I’m talking about, it doesn’t have to be a very large salary.  I’m envisioning that player going to Utah as part of a larger deal when Mitchell finally goes to NY.  But, it could be salary to a team with a TPE or cap room also.

There are a lot of moving pieces, but I actually think the trick is getting Sexton to agree to a term.  Dallas would want a 2+1 I’m guessing and Sexton at those dollars would want to be free ASAP.  Schwartz is the agent, but following the last Kemba fiasco, I’ve not noticed any proof that he and Cuban share most favored nation status any more.  As you indicate, this is MUCH easier if you don’t have to work around the S&T rules and can just trade match for someone like Rose.