ROSTER TALK: Mavs favs for Vogel if no HC job exists. Kyrie handshake deal?

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 I agree with a lot of what you say.
1 I agree that Kyrie at his best is an excellent player (at least on offense) and would help the Mavs a lot.
2 I agree that at the right price, he could be worth getting.

However, I don't fully agree with
1 what you would be willing to give up (I would not offer any longer-term piece, ie Maxi or Green, for a player who is a one-year rental, where that 1 year of play is also uncertain)
... The deals I would consider would be 2 or 3 of THJ-Bertans-Powell (one such combo needs to be made a part of Brunson SNT to be legal)

I understand your position here based on how you value the players.  Admittedly, I am probably a little less “we love our boys” than most.  I like Maxi but am not married to an above average defender who has no game inside the 3 point line and needs 3’ of space to shoot or he becomes a speed bump in ball rotation.  I just think his skills are easily replaceable with reasonable dollars. (Wow that sounds harsh).  I will agree that I am on the fence with Green.  I still hold out hope that we will see significant improvement where Maxi at this point is what he is.

2 the idea that Kyrie is sure to give you something positive
... I would hope for that, since he's good when he plays, but he's not reliable

Sure is probably a little strong.  It’s just my opinion and very well could be wrong.  I just don’t think he is stupid and if he pulled what he did last year again, his career will effectively be done.  His trade value so far should be a massive wake up call.

3 the thought that BKN would necessarily do such a deal, even though they really want to move him ... and the Mavs either, even at that price ... because he's way less PC and more unreliable than Cuban is typically willing to accept

You may be right on the BKN position.  I guess it comes down to how bad they want to get rid of him and what they can get.  Beggars can’t be choosers.  As far as the PC stuff, I don’t have an opinion as I haven’t kept up with all that.  

My analysis of the value of doing such a deal, say for THJ-Powell, is that Kyrie would hopefully be better this year than THJ would have been, and in the future you are able to replace THJ with someone even more Kidd-suitable by using the big MLE in 2023 (which you qualify for by having moved THJ-Powell).