DRAFT: #18 [Green] & #31 [Terry] & trade for #36 [Tyler Bey]

[Mapka]

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Yeah that's really not a very good reason. We are in win now mode because we can be? Nope. The only teams that can afford to be blase about long term roster building are teams like the Lakers that can attract almost any FA they want. Or desperate teams, with aging superstars. Being in win now mode is also a very easy way to handicap yourself into salary cap hell, stuck with bad contracts for low value, immoveable, average NBA players, or just having a constant rotation of recycled average players that don't move you forward much and don't give you much in the way of valuable assets to go out and upgrade if you aren't able to do anything in FA. Also there is a huge difference between the Sixers and Timberwolves. Don't even know what you are saying there. Sixers are a perennial playoff team with plenty of desirable assets they can use in trades to take the next step. They are not remotely in a bad position, but obviously if your GM isn't any good they can ruin any roster. The collection of tradeable assets the Sixers have built up is far, far superior to what we have. Yeah Luka is the best player, but we aren't trading him, we are trying to build around him. I'm not sure you understand about the concept of high value asset collection, because your statement about not even trying to win isn't really relevant at all. My post was not purely meant to be about who we specifically take with pick 18 anyway, more about the whole mindset of being in win now mode, the fact the Mavs have been for a long time, and the bad job they have done at asset collection, where other franchises have done it way better despite being consistent playoff teams.

To me I don´t need other reasons for trying to win than Love for the Game and Competitivness.

I´m with you, the MBT does an aweful job in amassing assets as they aren´t even trying. They do try to build a team.
To make things worse, an asset in the NBA is something, that´s more valueable to someone else than to you and our players tend to overachive.

I´m not sure which teams you see collecting assets and playing winning basketball. I give you the Nuggets by taking a gamble on Porter Jr. - could have gone the other way and they sunk a first.

I also don´t see a way that doesn´t at least give a chance to win now and makes some sense.
What are the win-now moves you are afraid of?

Celtics and the Heat. Way better job at asset collection. Already mentioned 76ers. The Celtics particularly have been a playoff team for like 6 straight seasons. Yes they got two top 5 picks in Tatum and Brown, but that was not because they were a bad team getting gifted high picks, they acquired those picks through asset collection in trades and turned them into the backbone of their team for the next decade. We don't do things like acquire picks, we trade them away in part because of our incessant win now mentality. And no, I'm not implying trading for Luka or KP were bad moves, it's one of the few areas where we are able to do some good work from time to time with limited resources. The reason we always have limited resources is implied. Even before lucking out by being in position to move up and get Luka, we basically had DSJ, and a bunch old guys with very limited trade value. The win now move would be to trade our picks in the draft when we are going to be pick deprived for a while, for an old overvalued role player type because they fill a specific need we have identified. Or drafting a stashable oversees player in order to save some money for future FA. Trading the picks for pure salary dumps. Along with moves like potentially overpaying our own players who we constantly overvalue, like possibly THJ. Basically passing over genuine opportunities to actually do the best job at asset acquisition over 3, 4, 5 years because more importance is put on putting the pieces together to win "next year" over anything else. Hopefully it doesn't happen, but there's too much evidence of constant win now focused mentality by the MBT, that i'll believe it when I see it.

That´s not win-now moves, that´s flat out bad moves. I want them to make both picks - as there is no way to bundle them to move up. But if we can get Jrue I wouldn´t blink, if my Docs say he still has two arms and legs.
Don´t see how stashing a player is a win now move (you could just sell the pick). I don´t want to dump any salary, we will need everything we have for trades.
If we extend THJ it will be at a fair level, there is so few money around and everybody is wary about taking a player from us.

The only real win-now move I can see is trading for PC3 but OKC will get a better trade elsewhere.

We lost 2-4 to the team that lost 3-4 to the team that lost 1-4 to the champions.

We are also as close to contending as the current Sixers, partly because they have regressed due to their recent poor win-now decisions.

Lost Covington and Saric for Butler.
Lost two first rounds picks and Shamet for Harris.
Signed Horford and Redick.

Are we sure they are a worse team right now, if they had Saric, Covington, Shamet, and two 1st round picks.

Actually

Simmons
Shamet
Covington
Saric
Embiid

looks a very well-balanced young veteran TEAM with a great cap structure and all their future assets in place. Moves need to be made with multiple titles windows in mind not a few extra games next season.

The Sixers are like "Hans im Glück"


they worked (tanked) hard for Assets and than traded them down for lesser ones. On the way they used up their shoes (making the supposed franchise players unhappy).  That´s the opposite of asset collection 

I´m really curious how they will save this.