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DRAFT: #18 [Green] & #31 [Terry] & trade for #36 [Tyler Bey]
(09-24-2020, 01:46 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote:
(09-24-2020, 01:30 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:
(09-24-2020, 01:00 PM)Kammrath Wrote:
(09-24-2020, 08:23 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: It was a pretty awful trade.


It wasn't at all IMO. Barnes was ballast and I do not know where or how the Mavs could have gotten a better deal. Just because SAC saved face and gave him a big deal doesn't mean he is a good player.

HB was -2.6 on/off last year, and that is hard to do when you are on a TERRIBLE team. He was even worse than the other terrible players on a terrible team.

Especially since for any team NOT willing to give him that contract, which I assume would be most teams, he would have been a rental. 

How the player and agent see their situation and what they're looking for contractually probably inform a guy's trade value significantly. To Sacramento he was valuable, so I guess you could make the case that Dallas could've wrangled more away from them, but they didn't want salary coming back, and it seems like a pretty big leap to assume there would've been some kind of bidding war for him from other teams. 

I think it's VERY understandable how that offer was the best they could get. They couldn't get Kemba with the room, so you can't call it a home run, but I don't think it's a negative, really.
I assume there are at least 20 teams Barnes would have rather signed for that summer, if they had made an equal offer to the Kings. Therefore the Kings had some leverage, that at their number, they were the only game in town. And nobody outbids a 15th pick offer for a three months rental of Harrison Barnes.

If the Mavs were more shrewd they could have just waited it out and either a) Barnes walks which certainly could have happened. They didn't really lose anything bc we saw that Jackson wasn't really a prize. b) Barnes opts in and Mavs can easily trade him somewhere if they want to, in fact they could have probably lined up a trade with the Kings or another team if they get their guy. Other teams do this routinely. c) After seeing their FA choices aren't great they could have done what they did which is sign Boban & Curry, while retaining Barnes for 1 more season to see how things mesh. He could have been easily moved last summer or at the trade deadline.

Instead we trade Barnes for nothing because the MBT is so hyper conservative they take the bird in the hand every time when it comes to cap space. They take no chances for fear they will get stuck and not be able to sign the max-level FA they want.
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