Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination

[Dahlsim]

@"Dahlsim"

Though this was interesting: https://stomson2001.wordpress.com/2021/0...e-systems/

"Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. 

Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

ER Editor: Dr. Mike Williams does a sterling job of explaining the probable mechanism behind the mRNA vaccines and why they have been engineered to TURN OFF a key element in our immune system response (this element is particular TLRs or toll-like receptors). Turning off this component permits the mRNA to enter our cells to do its job. When these are neutralized or prevented from working, however, there is then a knock-on effect on the CD8 T-cells, which are vital to a robust immune-system response. As Dr. Ryan Cole refers to them in this article/tweet, they are your ‘killer’ cells which, among other things, keep viruses in check. When you turn off certain TLRs, you also disable these highly necessary T-cells.

Whoever thought this was good idea? 

All of which may explain why certain types of cancer, as well as shingles, seem to be on the rise following Covid vaccination."

The issue I have is how does this affect the immune system long term. I don't think it simply disappears after it's time in our body wanes and that is concerning. Thankfully, there are a lot of doctors and scientists out there studying this around the clock; something the mainstream of doctors won't do. And at least we can get real data from that--peer review is sh*te for the most part but at least the research is being done. 

Thanks @"luka_skywalker_77" .  Good stuff. I hadn't seen the possible linkage with shingles for example. We should have more appreciation for all of these doctors and scientists on all sides of the issue that are working hard on 

explaining the probable mechanism

even before they can completely validate these mechanisms via robust testing and studies. 

Similarly on both sides of the issue which is unfortunately mislabeled as pro-vax/anti-vax, we have good scientific investigation into the long term vaccination effects. 
This is all very important and another reason the forced vaccinations movement is not only unethical in my view but also short-sighted. 

Naturally in the public with people getting sick and dying around us the long-term concerns are easily buried under the immediate fears.  Most of the public want a right now solution and are willing to kick all concerns over the long-term down the road with little concern.  This is one of the reasons most of public can be persuaded to support even forced vaccinations against their fellow citizens.  

Unfortunately, what is a helpful thing is being presented or perhaps misrepresented as a right now immediate cure to the pandemic, if only their unvaccinated neighbors would comply.