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Murray and draft compensation for Irving could be good for me.
I love Ky but he probably has only great 2/3 great seasons ahead of him at high level and we will not contender at that stage.
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(11-07-2026, 04:23 AM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: Murray and draft compensation for Irving could be good for me.
I love Ky but he probably has only great 2/3 great seasons ahead of him at high level and we will not contender at that stage.
He's playing pretty well currently and is a positive influence and mentor to the younger players, but in all seriousness, he doesn't meet the Mavs current timeline. So, if they're offered a pretty good deal, I could see him being moved at the TDL.
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(11-06-2026, 07:54 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: NBABase: Zach Lowe says Jamal Murray could be a surprise trade candidate if the Nuggets struggle this season. “I said Jamal Murray just because if this team isn’t good, I think something is going to crack here. I’m not closing the door.”
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It might be controversial, but Murray could be one of the best fits next to Coop and could work well next to Kyrie too. He does just enough facilitation and when he’s on he’s one of the most lethal scorers in the league
I think there’s a path where the Mavs could get both by trading our glut of wings.
Don’t think Denver is interested at all, but could Christie+Naji+Gafford be interesting? 3 high quality role players for Murray might be the best they could get given his contract
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Trade for Murray without touch Coop, Kyrie and Rez would be and homerun of course... but i don't think Denver will take role players for him.
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(11-08-2026, 01:28 PM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: Trade for Murray without touch Coop, Kyrie and Rez would be and homerun of course... but i don't think Denver will take role players for him.
That contract is pretty rough, Jokic is going to opt-out of his contract after this season and will be getting a massive 5/350 supermax so money will be tight for them. Max has a PO and it would be easier to move off of the other 2 smaller contracts.
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(11-08-2026, 01:41 PM)Dirknows Wrote: That contract is pretty rough, Jokic is going to opt-out of his contract after this season and will be getting a massive 5/350 supermax so money will be tight for them. Max has a PO and it would be easier to move off of the other 2 smaller contracts.
Yes but i see a discount in the next contract (ala Kyrie) and Denver has to add picks... so it's not a bad deal for me.
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Man to get to $40ism million (125% of Murray) Dallas would have to trade Martin, Christie, and Sasser and then add one of PJ or Gaff. I just don't know if you want to sacrifice ALL the depth.
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(11-09-2026, 04:05 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Man to get to $40ism million (125% of Murray) Dallas would have to trade Martin, Christie, and Sasser and then add one of PJ or Gaff. I just don't know if you want to sacrifice ALL the depth.
It would be a horrible move. Murray and Kyrie together doesn't make much sense - even less sense in the context of the positional size with shooting mission Ujiri, Schmitz and May seem to be on, and Murray is already showing signs of leaving his prime, becoming less dependably healthy and effective with each passing week. To top it off, he was drastically overpaid on this contract, even in the best case scenario of how his career would unfold over the life of the deal. I don't blame Denver - when you're in a small market and have a good team assembled around a player like Jokic, there's no choice but to pay the guys who make it go. The cycle of professional sports teams is predictable and almost impossible to outsmart.
The only thing even worth discussing is a Kyrie for Murray exchange, and it's not worth talking about for very long because I honestly don't think it helps either team. Maybe if Murray was four years younger, but even then I don't think Kyrie gets Denver to the immediate relevance they'd want to achieve in such a deal.
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Brian Windhorst: Warriors could use Kristaps Porzingis' contract as a $25 million trade exception. "It essentially functions as a trade exception, and not even that, because a trade exception allows you to acquire the player. When you trade for a player, it depends on which team is making the trade because different teams have different rules based on where they are on the apron, but you can get up to 125 percent of the salary back. It could be a 25-million-dollar trade exception that just exists because that's the thing about a trade exception: you could just trade for a player, acquire the player, and the other team doesn't have to pay. I wouldn't be surprised if they are considering exactly what you did because this was not, and I don't think the Warriors knew this. I think the Warriors were expecting him to report to camp."
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(11-09-2026, 04:05 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Man to get to $40ism million (125% of Murray) Dallas would have to trade Martin, Christie, and Sasser and then add one of PJ or Gaff. I just don't know if you want to sacrifice ALL the depth.
No man, Kyrie for Murray+picks Is the deal...
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NBACentral: It’s not guaranteed that Nikola Jokic will re-sign with Denver, per @timkawakami: “I’ve been hearing this for a little while. It’s an open thing. It’s an open thing. He’s very likely to go back to Denver, but it’s an open thing. There’s nothing guaranteed about him going back to sign a long extension with Denver.”
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Absolutely nothing to see regarding Murray
BUT
I do think at some point that package of Martin, Sasser and Christie for a player or two in the mid-to-high 20s might be something worth watching around 12/15, when players who signed in the offseason become eligible to be traded
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(Yesterday, 08:28 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: NBACentral: It’s not guaranteed that Nikola Jokic will re-sign with Denver, per @timkawakami: “I’ve been hearing this for a little while. It’s an open thing. It’s an open thing. He’s very likely to go back to Denver, but it’s an open thing. There’s nothing guaranteed about him going back to sign a long extension with Denver.”
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I think the odds are that he resigns in Denver. Although, I agree it is not a done deal. Denver should still be a good team but they are in a very tricky spot. I am not a big fan of the young coach and the front office while making some correct decisions on extensions, it seems they have not maximized their opportunities to build a better team around Jokic.
Which teams have max cap space this summer? Any semi contenders have cap space?
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(Yesterday, 09:08 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think the odds are that he resigns in Denver. Although, I agree it is not a done deal. Denver should still be a good team but they are in a very tricky spot. I am not a big fan of the young coach and the front office while making some correct decisions on extensions, it seems they have not maximized their opportunities to build a better team around Jokic.
Which teams have max cap space this summer? Any semi contenders have cap space?
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(Yesterday, 09:08 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think the odds are that he resigns in Denver. Although, I agree it is not a done deal. Denver should still be a good team but they are in a very tricky spot. I am not a big fan of the young coach and the front office while making some correct decisions on extensions, it seems they have not maximized their opportunities to build a better team around Jokic.
Which teams have max cap space this summer? Any semi contenders have cap space?
He’s not turning down that 5/350 supermax. He signs that and then can force his way out if he wants to. He will be 32 next year this is his last big contract.
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Jokic has passed his prime for me, this year is slow as hell and not a treath for 3.
Maybe it's just a slow start of the season but i don't so excited to trade for his 320M supermax contract.
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Anyone interested in Kel’el Ware? Looks like he is in the doghouse with the Bucks.
Concerning since this is the 2nd coach who seems to not really like him, but this guy can rebound, has some offensive skills, and age wise fits with Coop.
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(8 hours ago)hakeemfaan Wrote: Anyone interested in Kel’el Ware? Looks like he is in the doghouse with the Bucks.
Concerning since this is the 2nd coach who seems to not really like him, but this guy can rebound, has some offensive skills, and age wise fits with Coop.
Impressive skillset. I'm intrigued by the player in a vacuum.
I just don't think he offers help in an area of need. What this team needs is a PG established enough to push WCJ into a clear 3rd guard role (with or without Martin in the mix) and who can play with or without Kyrie on the floor. Their secondary need is a guy who can do what Martin does, only with a little more stability and staying power. A combo of Martin and Christie, I guess.
If the Mavs had those two players, they'd be like the 4th or 5th best team in the West right this second, with the arrow pointed steeply UP. Depending on how good the targets were, I'd trade any front court player not named Flagg, Lively, Johnson or Risacher to get them (though not ALL of the rest - just whichever 1-2 it took).
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(8 hours ago)KillerLeft Wrote: Impressive skillset. I'm intrigued by the player in a vacuum.
I just don't think he offers help in an area of need. What this team needs is a PG established enough to push WCJ into a clear 3rd guard role (with or without Martin in the mix) and who can play with or without Kyrie on the floor. Their secondary need is a guy who can do what Martin does, only with a little more stability and staying power. A combo of Martin and Christie, I guess.
If the Mavs had those two players, they'd be like the 4th or 5th best team in the West right this second, with the arrow pointed steeply UP. Depending on how good the targets were, I'd trade any front court player not named Flagg, Lively, Johnson or Risacher to get them (though not ALL of the rest - just whichever 1-2 it took).
Agreed on the need. I am just looking at getting some skill at the 5 spot as well while the price may be low and see if May can unlock the potential.
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(8 hours ago)hakeemfaan Wrote: Agreed on the need. I am just looking at getting some skill at the 5 spot as well while the price may be low and see if May can unlock the potential.
He's awesome, no doubt. It's concerning (as you suggest) that his coaches don't seem to agree so far, but that isn't the hold up for me. Depending on Lively's future, the Mavs have as many as FIVE players I think are deserving of minutes at the 5 right now, and I'd say Johnson and Ware are comparable enough that Ware's style wouldn't add much in the way of NEW value. If they didn't have Johnson I'd probably be all about it, but I think the Mavs just drafted a similar (probably better) version of Ware who's soon to be a 28-32 minutes per player.
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