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There isn't any player close to AD on the market if you believe the latest from Giannis saying he's a Buck for life. That being said Atlanta can give up the NO #1 or find another AD elsewhere. We don't have to trade AD. Wait until the right package comes along. Time for the Mavs to play hard ball for once. Do you think Presti or Riley would make this trade without that NO pick. Hell no they wouldn't.
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Being locked into one team and thinking you need to trade AD before the TDL seems like a bad way to operate if you want to maximize your assets.
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(01-08-2026, 02:57 PM)cow Wrote: Being locked into one team and thinking you need to trade AD before the TDL seems like a bad way to operate if you want to maximize your assets.

The Mavs aren’t locked into one team, we here are locked on to the Hawks because they have the most valuable asset in the NOP pick. Toronto and GS we know have interest. I’m sure there are others that will come out as we get closer to the deadline.
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(01-08-2026, 03:06 PM)Dirknows Wrote: The Mavs aren’t locked into one team, we here are locked on to the Hawks because they have the most valuable asset in the NOP pick. Toronto and GS we know have interest. I’m sure there are others that will come out as we get closer to the deadline.

"We here" is what I was referring to as a lot of folks seem to think we should accept whatever Atlanta offers.  If the NOP pick is off the table which seems likely, I'd be looking elsewhere.
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(01-08-2026, 03:10 PM)cow Wrote: "We here" is what I was referring to as a lot of folks seem to think we should accept whatever Atlanta offers.  If the NOP pick is off the table which seems likely, I'd being looking elsewhere.

Exactly. We have what Atlanta wants. Pay our price or move on.
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saw on a hawks board that Young has played 140 games since the 23/24 season.  AD has played 145 games over that same period. 

Mcmahon saying that Kyrie won't be back by the trade deadline and may not be back this year.

Mavs have given a maybe on an AD contract extension.  Rich Paul is taking that as a no.

https://x.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/200...6017394836

https://x.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/200...6355765432

https://x.com/MavsFilmRoom/status/2009359126489649359
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(01-08-2026, 03:10 PM)cow Wrote: "We here" is what I was referring to as a lot of folks seem to think we should accept whatever Atlanta offers.  If the NOP pick is off the table which seems likely, I'd be looking elsewhere.

Agree
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(01-08-2026, 03:10 PM)cow Wrote: "We here" is what I was referring to as a lot of folks seem to think we should accept whatever Atlanta offers.  If the NOP pick is off the table which seems likely, I'd be looking elsewhere.

Replying to more posts in this one.

I didn't realize other teams also have the NO pick Smile

GSW is already reported to be out of Davis sweepstakes as their only possible matching salaries are Butler or Green (with Kuminga) and neither team is interested to trade or receive them. Toronto only has longterm salaries on overpaid role players, no expirings. Best young player they can offer is who? Gradey Dick? You might not be a fan of Zach, but he is several levels worse than him. 

Risacher is of course not at Flagg level, but he is huge for his position and a decent shooter and defender. His on/off is actually positive. Still only 20 years old. Repeating again, there are reports that Mavs actually inquired about him, so they obviously do see things they like. Toronto doesn't have anyone close to his potential. Neither does GSW, unless you are a huge Kuminga fan. Not sure what sophomore slump people are speaking about. The only thing that got slightly worse is number of shot attempts. Other than from FT, his shooting percentages slightly increased, so did his efficiency. He has more steals and less TO than last season. He is not a #1 option on Atlanta (was more like number 4 or 5). He will likely not be a star, but has all the tools to be a very good two-way wing.

Out of these reported teams, Atlanta can actually provide by far most appealing offer even without the NO pick you are so fixated on.
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(01-08-2026, 02:57 PM)cow Wrote: Being locked into one team and thinking you need to trade AD before the TDL seems like a bad way to operate if you want to maximize your assets.

Literally nobody on this board has suggested this.  Different folks have different lines on what they would pull the trigger on.  I would be willing to bet that the Mavs can't get better than 40+ mil in cap space, a quality young player and a decent first round pick in the summer.  I'm not even sure that is on the table now or will be.

For everybody saying Mavs should hold out for the NOP pick, try putting yourself in the other teams shoes.  Would anybody honestly be willing to send out that pick to acquire AD?  My guess is the answer is no.
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(01-08-2026, 03:34 PM)omahen Wrote: Replying to more posts in this one.

I didn't realize other teams also have the NO pick Smile

GSW is already reported to be out of Davis sweepstakes as their only possible matching salaries are Butler or Green (with Kuminga) and neither team is interested to trade or receive them. Toronto only has longterm salaries on overpaid role players, no expirings. Best young player they can offer is who? Gradey Dick? You might not be a fan of Zach, but he is several levels worse than him. 

Risacher is of course not at Flagg level, but he is huge for his position and a decent shooter and defender. His on/off is actually positive. Still only 20 years old. Repeating again, there are reports that Mavs actually inquired about him, so they obviously do see things they like. Toronto doesn't have anyone close to his potential. Neither does GSW, unless you are a huge Kuminga fan. Not sure what sophomore slump people are speaking about. The only thing that got slightly worse is number of shot attempts. Other than from FT, his shooting percentages slightly increased, so did his efficiency. He has more steals and less TO than last season. He is not a #1 option on Atlanta (was more like number 4 or 5). He will likely not be a star, but has all the tools to be a very good two-way wing.

Out of these reported teams, Atlanta can actually provide by far most appealing offer even without the NO pick you are so fixated on.

Saying I'm not interested in Atlanta's pu pu platter =/= me being fixated on the NOP pick which is why I said I'd look elsewhere and not be desperate to get out of the AD business by the TDL.  The only fixation I see in this thread lately is the laser focus on Atlanta.  It might be true, I just wouldn't be interested if I were running the show, but it isn't like  this organization has a long history of making questionable moves.
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(01-08-2026, 03:45 PM)mvossman Wrote: Literally nobody on this board has suggested this.  Different folks have different lines on what they would pull the trigger on.  I would be willing to bet that the Mavs can't get better than 40+ mil in cap space, a quality young player and a decent first round pick in the summer.  I'm not even sure that is on the table now or will be.

For everybody saying Mavs should hold out for the NOP pick, try putting yourself in the other teams shoes.  Would anybody honestly be willing to send out that pick to acquire AD?  My guess is the answer is no.

There is a difference between holding out for the NOP pick and coming to the conclusion that there might not be a suitable trade match between the Hawks and Mavs.  I even said  it's likely, thus understandable, that the NOP pick is off the table.
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(01-08-2026, 01:49 PM)Knutsen Wrote: In what world does Desmond Bane get you 4 first round picks and Anthony Davis zero?

The decision the Hawks have to make is do they want to compete in the next two to three seasons or rebuild with the top talent they can draft?

The value of Kawhi Leonard, Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis has very little to do with how good they are.

Do you think Kawhi or Embiid would net 4 first rd picks because they are better players than Desmond Bane?
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(01-08-2026, 03:47 PM)cow Wrote: Saying I'm not interested in Atlanta's pu pu platter =/= me being fixated on the NOP pick which is why I said I'd look elsewhere and not be desperate to get out of the AD business by the TDL.  The only fixation I see in this thread lately is the laser focus on Atlanta.  It might be true, I just wouldn't be interested if I were running the show, but it isn't like  this organization has a long history of making moves.

"Fixation" on Atlanta is consequence of reports that they are (most) interested in trading for Davis. As Mvossman said, some here think their offer can be good even without NO pick. I would rather trade AD than draw the line with the NO pick and risk what situation will be in summer. 

As I tried to illustrate in my previous answer - there is no other team with reported AD interest capable of offering anything remotely close to NO pick. So not sure why that pick is where the line is drawn with Atlanta. Taking the NO pick out, Toronto and Atlanta have similar picks to offer. Atlanta actually has another very interesting pick in 2027 (another choice between NO and Mil). Atlanta can offer by far more appealing player package, unless you are a fan of some combination of Garret, Poeltl and Quickley.
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(01-08-2026, 03:45 PM)mvossman Wrote: Literally nobody on this board has suggested this.  Different folks have different lines on what they would pull the trigger on.  I would be willing to bet that the Mavs can't get better than 40+ mil in cap space, a quality young player and a decent first round pick in the summer.  I'm not even sure that is on the table now or will be.

For everybody saying Mavs should hold out for the NOP pick, try putting yourself in the other teams shoes.  Would anybody honestly be willing to send out that pick to acquire AD?  My guess is the answer is no.

The report came out the other day a lot of teams in the East believe they are an AD away from the finals. So I lean more towards teams that are in legit contender status, such as Toronto, is CMB untouchable for them? They have all their future firsts if people are interested in those. Have to bring back some bad money. It’s unfortunate the Hornets haven’t been able to get hot and move into the playoff picture, because they could use AD and have a lot of nice pieces.
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(01-08-2026, 03:47 PM)cow Wrote: Saying I'm not interested in Atlanta's pu pu platter =/= me being fixated on the NOP pick which is why I said I'd look elsewhere and not be desperate to get out of the AD business by the TDL.  The only fixation I see in this thread lately is the laser focus on Atlanta.  It might be true, I just wouldn't be interested if I were running the show, but it isn't like  this organization has a long history of making questionable moves.

The hyper focus on Atlanta is because they have the best package to offer of any of the teams interested (even without the NOP pick) and they just traded Trae which was supposedly the biggest hold up to dealing with Mavs.  There is also a ton of smoke regarding AD to Atlanta and virtually none for any other team (probably because those teams don't have a reasonable offer to make).
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If the Atlanta offer is truly the best offer and the NO pick isn't included, just keep AD. The Mavs aren't going to trade him him just because. We don't know what trades are being discussed behind the scenes with teams that aren't being reported on. Anything is possible at this point. AD is too damn good to give away for shit. I'd rather keep his fragile ass than to give him away.
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There's zero chance the Mavs are operating as a second apron team next year. So the decision is either trade AD now or in the offseason. This is why IMO the Mavs are not in the drivers seat of negotiations as some are suggesting. They HAVE to get rid of AD, probably more than Atlanta needs AD.

If you guys want to argue not to trade him now, we need reasoning why you think there will be better offers this summer. Making an arbitrary line in the sand of not trading him unless you get the NOLA pick makes very little sense to me. Someone else posted that you can wait until after the draft lottery so Atlanta knows where that pick is. That's really the only reasonable argument I've seen for waiting to trade him until this summer. Atlanta might be willing to include that pick if it doesn't end up being a top 3 or top 5 pick.

The only other team interested in him according to reports is Toronto. Their assets are even worse than Atlanta's
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(01-08-2026, 03:57 PM)Dirknows Wrote: The report came out the other day a lot of teams in the East believe they are an AD away from the finals. 

This is a key factor in any AD transaction. If the other teams owner/GM/HC feels that AD will put them over the hump and into contention, they'll be willing to grit their teeth and make the deal.

We should be aware of how fleeting success is in the NBA. Getting deep in the playoffs is hard and there are no guarantees (injury, salary cap, age) you'll make it back the next year (for most teams), so you have to give it your best shot when you can. Most pundits think the East is gettable for several teams this year, mostly due to lingering issues from LAST season. So if you can add a talent like AD to a team already showing signs of success you have to go for it or answer "why not" when your offseason starts in May.

DAL was trying to do that with Luka, then Nico traded away the whole reason behind multiple years of team building. Any talk of contention after that was just gas lighting. As much as I like seeing the guys win, I'll be more excited if we could go into next season with a couple of top 10 picks to play with Coop. (Not Chuck, the younger one)
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(01-08-2026, 04:03 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: If the Atlanta offer is truly the best offer and the NO pick isn't included, just keep AD. The Mavs aren't going to trade him him just because. We don't know what trades are being discussed behind the scenes with teams that aren't being reported on. Anything is possible at this point. AD is too damn good to give away for shit. I'd rather keep his fragile ass than to give him away.

Its highly unlikely you are getting a NOP pick level asset in the summer either.  So what then, we just ride him out until his contract runs out?  We spend the next two years trying to rebuild with a disgruntled, oft injured massive cap clogger while pissing off his agent (who is also Lively's agent) and let him walk in free agency?  

I don't think that scenario makes any sense for Mavs.  I think they need to maximize his value in a trade, whether that is at the TDL or in the offseason.  I just think some folks are unrealistic regarding his market value.
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At this point, the arguments are circular, and have been so for a while. We all know where each other stand on this. The good news is that we're going to find out what happens pretty soon.
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