Luka Dealt to Lakers: Nico Harrison is a Basketball Terrorist

[SleepingHero]

Please. No politics. For the love of god.

[FireNicoHarrison]

I would like to say hello to the people who put me on the ignore list because of my negativity.

These are our Dallas Mavericks after the Luka trade.

I hope you are having fun.

But yes, "if we were healthy...." Hahahahahahaha

[FireNicoHarrison]

Your extreme and incessant total negativity about all things Mavs-related, with every post another version of whatever set of insults you can imagine to make about players, team, possibilities, feels way out of place in a Mavs forum. It's not persuasive, just negative raining down. 

Nice trolling, because after the first post with this schtick, trolling is all the rest of it is. Trying to stir up emotions and make this place a drag.

I'm putting you on ignore, because it's just too stupid to keep wading through, with no intelligent thought or nuance ever offered. But please get lost.

Deleted for antagonism - SH

[hakeemfaan]

There is this and the Nico is a terrorist thread. Can we who refuse to move on until Nico is gone ( sorry JubJub and Corby who are tired of us and want us to move on), have these two threads for our group therapy?  There are plenty of other threads on this board that folks who don’t want to delve into negativity can choose from. 

Game thread. Used to be in the pages. Now barely has two in a home game with Giannis. Why are the Nico positive guys not filling that thread?

Why not talk about all our future assets so that we can do a Cleveland like reboot even after they lost Kyrie and lost LeBron twice?  Assets. Oh wait?

Why not talk about the vision of Nico? I am not seeing it given we got a guy who slows down the game more and increases the burden of facilitating and creating his own shot on a 33 year old Kyrie, but maybe I can be persuaded. Who is stopping anyone from starting those threads?


Why not talk about how this GM and ownership is commmitted to spend for good quality players provided they are not lazy and have no bad habits off the court. Players like Brunson and Grimes.  Oh wait again. 

Why not talk about how our GM will make shrewd deals and ensure we don’t get fleeced? 

Who exactly is stopping anyone from these countless threads. I give my word I won’t come and vent on those threads.

Go ahead and start those threads and pump up the sunshine to borrow a term from the past on these boards.

[Smitty]

Looking around the league, thinking about what this team needs, I’d look to trade for guys like Luka and Grimes this summer. Don’t know if they’re gettable but I think they could be the missing pieces.

[hakeemfaan]

Looking around the league, thinking about what this team needs, I’d look to trade for guys like Luka and Grimes this summer. Don’t know if they’re gettable but I think they could be the missing pieces.

Not good enough for this team. Nico and  Dumont saw Luka average 29 points against Boston, while Kyrie was having a terrible series, our centers couldn’t stretch the floor or dominate down low, the team shot abysmally on open 3s, and decided that Luka was the main culprit and he had to go if we had to take the next step.

[DallasMaverick]

I’m enjoying the Mavs this year.

Looking forward to seeing what they’ll become.

[SleepingHero]

Hello my friend (and everyone who +1 at your post), how are you? Great games so far by the Mavs and what a shining future for our franchise.

Street clothes will be awesome in every ESPN pre game specials. What elegance.

Lets not be openly antagonistic to others. So cut that out.

Secondly, as Mavs fans were all in the same boat. We know the franchise hit the nuke button. Dancing over the graves doesn't seem productive whatsoever.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Not good enough for this team. Nico and  Dumont saw Luka average 29 points against Boston, while Kyrie was having a terrible series, our centers couldn’t stretch the floor or dominate down low, the team shot abysmally on open 3s, and decided that Luka was the main culprit and he had to go if we had to take the next step.

Lose the Finals and trade the only positive Mavs player (the other one was Green... )on that series is hilarious.

And i don't believe at all these narratives or smokescreens... Conditioning, supermax, defense win Championship, Luka attitude, ball movement, Harrison wanted Davis ecc ecc

Nothing is true. Nothing.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Lets not be openly antagonistic to others. So cut that out.

Secondly, as Mavs fans were all in the same boat. We know the franchise hit the nuke button. Dancing over the graves doesn't seem productive whatsoever.

I'm not the one who started it... But last time i didn't read any warning...

[hakeemfaan]

Lets not be openly antagonistic to others. So cut that out.

Secondly, as Mavs fans were all in the same boat. We know the franchise hit the nuke button. Dancing over the graves doesn't seem productive whatsoever.

Nuke button. That’s what makes this so difficult to move on from. 

Utah at least had a reason why they hit the nuke button. They saw the lack of playoff results with Mitchell and Rudy. Plus their vision is clear. Let’s hit on a bunch of picks and see. Similarly for the Nets. They nuked it because their stars just wanted out. 

We nuked it after coming off a Finals run and legit having maybe the strongest and deepest team in the league this year, for who knows what?  As already mentioned many times AD doesn’t overall make this specific roster better than Luka and unlike Utah we didn’t get any picks either. 

So puzzling and frustrating when we could have made a legit championship push this year.

[SleepingHero]

I'm not the one who started it... But last time i didn't read any warning...

So I've known FGump for quite some time now and spoke with him privately. Given he's been posting for decades at this point, he gets more leeway than most.


But overt antagonism, almost trying to poke the bear, gets met with a public warning.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Nuke button. That’s what makes this so difficult to move on from. 

Utah at least had a reason why they hit the nuke button. They saw the lack of playoff results with Mitchell and Rudy. Plus their vision is clear. Let’s hit on a bunch of picks and see. Similarly for the Nets. They nuked it because their stars just wanted out. 

We nuked it after coming off a Finals run and legit having maybe the strongest and deepest team in the league this year, for who knows what?  As already mentioned many times AD doesn’t overall make this specific roster better than Luka and unlike Utah we didn’t get any picks either. 

So puzzling and frustrating when we could have made a legit championship push this year.

Agree.

It's a clearly sport fraud.

[Smitty]

Just playing devils advocate a bit. But, if it’s picks you want, the Mavs have several players that are positive assets in the trade market. At any point they can get picks by trading Kyrie, Davis, Washington, Klay, Christie, Lively, Gafford, etc.

That’s not the path that the front office is choosing. They think they can compete with the Thunder, Cavs and Celtics of the world with how this roster is currently built and then adding to it in the roster building windows.

I think they’re wrong but I hope we get to see them at full strength to find out.

[SleepingHero]

Nuke button. That’s what makes this so difficult to move on from. 

Utah at least had a reason why they hit the nuke button. They saw the lack of playoff results with Mitchell and Rudy. Plus their vision is clear. Let’s hit on a bunch of picks and see. Similarly for the Nets. They nuked it because their stars just wanted out. 

We nuked it after coming off a Finals run and legit having maybe the strongest and deepest team in the league this year, for who knows what?  As already mentioned many times AD doesn’t overall make this specific roster better than Luka and unlike Utah we didn’t get any picks either. 

So puzzling and frustrating when we could have made a legit championship push this year.

Trying to make sane from the insane is a fruitless endeavor. 

This is really the first time in 30 years where I've missed Mavs games. The empty seats in the stadium tells the same story. The front office was so wholly incompetent that they truly didn't understand the fallout from trading the most beloved guy since Dirk. They really thought fans would just be able to move on. They truly believed that we would've been excited to get AD and thought we had a better chance to win.

There are just so many ways to look at this situation where you come away baffled every time with a new angle of pure insanity. 

I truly, truly hope they are panicking over there in Mavs HQ. I want them to be looking at spreadsheets, seeing their revenue halved, and wonder "was it all worth it?".

I want Nico to sweat every time he steps near the AAC. I want Nico to be so uncomfortable where he starts to question his daily routine that allowed him to get on this path of trading away Luka. Moving on can't begin until Nico is fired. He will be publicly humiliated for the rest of his life.

[hakeemfaan]

Just playing devils advocate a bit. But, if it’s picks you want, the Mavs have several players that are positive assets in the trade market. At any point they can get picks by trading Kyrie, Davis, Washington, Klay, Christie, Lively, Gafford, etc.

That’s not the path that the front office is choosing. They think they can compete with the Thunder, Cavs and Celtics of the world with how this roster is currently built and then adding to it in the roster building windows.

I think they’re wrong but I hope we get to see them at full strength to find out.

Do you have any faith in this current management when they fumbled a 25 year old top 3 player, coming off a finals run, and had not demanded a trade and was happy year? 

Sure nothing is as good as it seems when things look great and vice versa, but for me the trust is irrevocably lost with Nico. That’s why I keep saying the first step towards healing is moving on from Nico. Thinking more, I don’t even want him reporting to a Lindsey type.  Just move on from him. 

The next step would be an admission by the owner that he trusted Nico and doesn’t know much about hoops, but that would be a bit too much from an arrogant billionaire many times over.

[hakeemfaan]

Trying to make sane from the insane is a fruitless endeavor. 

This is really the first time in 30 years where I've missed Mavs games. The empty seats in the stadium tells the same story. The front office was so wholly incompetent that they truly didn't understand the fallout from trading the most beloved guy since Dirk. They really thought fans would just be able to move on. They truly believed that we would've been excited to get AD and thought we had a better chance to win.

There are just so many ways to look at this situation where you come away baffled every time with a new angle of pure insanity. 

I truly, truly hope they are panicking over there in Mavs HQ. I want them to be looking at spreadsheets, seeing their revenue halved, and wonder "was it all worth it?".

I want Nico to sweat every time he steps near the AAC. I want Nico to be so uncomfortable where he starts to question his daily routine that allowed him to get on this path of trading away Luka. Moving on can't begin until Nico is fired. He will be publicly humiliated for the rest of his life.

Honestly to me, Luka being beloved is secondary.  Dirk had many attributes I identified with. Luka, other than his insane talent and having that alpha dog mentality, had very few personal traits I liked. Then again I am a 50+ goober. Younger Gen would look at it differently. 

To me it is a lack of fiduciary duty to the fans that bothers me. If your vision is short term then be bold and ask for both Bron and AD Or walk away.  AD doesn’t make this specific roster better than Luka in the short term and when you are trading for a 32 year old, you are not looking at the long term anyway. 

Else the vision should have been picks galore and some young talent who have been taken high in recent years and have the chance to take it to the next level. I am not even looking at undisputed young stars like SGA or AE. Give me a Wagner or a Sarr/Coulibaly or a Castle/Vassel/Sochan or a Scottie Barnes and a boatload of picks 

To me moving on from Luka at this particular stage made no sense given we had a legit chance to win it all. However if you are making that move at least it has to be for a clear short term upgrade or something to bank on for the long term.  Not seeing either of that is why this is so frustrating.

[Smitty]

Do you have any faith in this current management when they fumbled a 25 year old top 3 player, coming off a finals run, and had not demanded a trade and was happy year? 

No, not anymore. 

I did give Nico a lot of credit for building what I thought was the best Mavs team in the Luka era. I think he was in the running for executive of the year or maybe he won it, I can’t remember. So, I don’t think he’s incompetent. I think he has a big ego and didn’t like that Luka had the keys to the franchise and didn’t treat it with the same respect that someone like Kobe did.

[SleepingHero]

Honestly to me, Luka being beloved is secondary.  Dirk had many attributes I identified with. Luka, other than his insane talent and having that alpha dog mentality, had very few personal traits I liked. Then again I am a 50+ goober. Younger Gen would look at it differently. 

To me it is a lack of fiduciary duty to the fans that bothers me. If your vision is short term then be bold and ask for both Bron and AD Or walk away.  AD doesn’t make this specific roster better than Luka in the short term and when you are trading for a 32 year old, you are not looking at the long term anyway. 

Else the vision should have been picks galore and some young talent who have been taken high in recent years and have the chance to take it to the next level. I am not even looking at undisputed young stars like SGA or AE. Give me a Wagner or a Sarr/Coulibaly or a Castle/Vassel/Sochan or a Scottie Barnes and a boatload of picks 

To me moving on from Luka at this particular stage made no sense given we had a legit chance to win it all. However if you are making that move at least it has to be for a clear short term upgrade or something to bank on for the long term.  Not seeing either of that is why this is so frustrating.

That's the thing, I think we're only seeing Nico's plan only half played out. I think his grand master plan was to get both AD and KD. Now the merits of trading 5-10 years of Luka for 2-3 years of AD+KD can be debated, but that package is CLOSE to what Luka brought. 

The thing is, Nico failed at getting the KD part. Time will tell if he will actually get the KD part. If he doesn't get the KD part then this grotesque plan got even more hilariously depressing.

[Jym]