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(08-11-2021, 10:56 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Zach Lowe recaps our offseason. I agree with him that a large part of our future success will be based on getting a more productive KP....either to stay longterm here or trade in the future.
Dallas fans are tired of the Mavericks doing pretty well in free agency after teasing grand plans. I get that. We don't need to recite the free agents who spurned the Mavericks, or the draft assets Dallas forfeited to crack open cap space.
Unwinding the [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Josh Richardson trade was painful -- an admission of its failure, and of wanderlust for [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Seth Curry[/color]. I liked that trade at the time for both teams. Richardson represented the two-way wing to shore up Dallas' defense and maybe provide secondary creation around the overburdened [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Luka Doncic[/color].[/color]
[color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Reggie Bullock is an archetypal 3-and-D wing with a quick release. (Richardson's slow release was an under-discussed problem.) Bullock brings zero off-the-bounce juice, but he's fine on a 3-year, $30 million deal.[/color]
The Mavs brought back [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Tim Hardaway Jr. on what should be a tradable contract. He has grown into a knockdown shooter who can pump-and-go, and run some pick-and-roll. He's not a good defender, but he tries and has improved.[/color]
I've been beating the [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Sterling Brown drum for years. He's 6-5, can guard three positions, and hit 42% from deep last season. That will likely prove a fluke; Brown was a league-average 3-point shooter before busting out in Houston. He's not as reliable on defense as you might think given his size and versatility, but he has the outlines of a rotation reserve on a good team.[/color]
None of this is as exciting as an alternate reality with [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Kyle Lowry next to Doncic.[/color]
Chasing Lowry evinced an internal belief that the Mavs were one player away from title contention. That was an appropriate mindset. Doncic is that good already.
Surrounding Doncic with shooters is the right Plan B, even if it does not resolve the issue of Doncic wearing down late in playoff games because no one else can orchestrate. (There is hope [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Jalen Brunson becomes that relief orchestrator, but his size is a detriment against elite postseason defenses.) The Mavs are loaded with good role players on value contracts -- grist for trades, even if the Mavs (pending a [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Kristaps Porzingis revival) don't have the blue-chip players to get in on superstar trades.[/color]
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Dallas still has semi-reasonable pathways to [color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]Goran Dragic, though they are surely wary of surrendering more picks after forking over two in the Porzingis deal.[/color]
And that's what everything boils down to: The Mavs have a hard ceiling as long as the gap between their best and second-best players is gargantuan. Porzingis can shrink that gap by finding his groove again on defense, and playing more center. The Mavs can shrink it by trading Porzingis for someone better, but they won't manage that unless Porzingis rounds back into form.
The Mavs made their bed by punting on the first round of the draft for years (they have done well in the second, and excelled with undrafted free agents) and then dealing their remaining equity for Porzingis. They have reprioritized the draft over the past two offseasons, though the results are TBD.
The Mavs are in a bit of a holding pattern around Doncic. But they will be a dangerous playoff team, and they are doing well on the fringes while in that holding pattern. That is the only way to break out of it.
[color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31999577/lowe-winners-losers-everyone-a-wild-2021-offseason[/color]
Wow...that didn't work. It is an insider article that I got from somewhere else. It was a good detailed writeup. Sorry.
Tried to fix it...
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(08-11-2021, 10:46 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Doesn't the TPE count against the cap also?
It does, just didn't include it.
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To be able to fix issues with something you copy and paste do this...
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2. Highlight entire post and then change the font and/or color
Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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(08-11-2021, 12:38 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: To be able to fix issues with something you copy and paste do this...
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Another way is to make your paste "as plaint text" or "without formatting."
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Not to be a cop, but it seems like bad form to copy/paste an entire paid-for article from any outlet.
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(08-11-2021, 10:56 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Zach Lowe recaps our offseason. I agree with him that a large part of our future success will be based on getting a more productive KP....either to stay longterm here or trade in the future.
Dallas fans are tired of the Mavericks doing pretty well in free agency after teasing grand plans. I get that. We don't need to recite the free agents who spurned the Mavericks, or the draft assets Dallas forfeited to crack open cap space.
Unwinding the Josh Richardson trade was painful -- an admission of its failure, and of wanderlust for Seth Curry. I liked that trade at the time for both teams. Richardson represented the two-way wing to shore up Dallas' defense and maybe provide secondary creation around the overburdened Luka Doncic.
Reggie Bullock is an archetypal 3-and-D wing with a quick release. (Richardson's slow release was an under-discussed problem.) Bullock brings zero off-the-bounce juice, but he's fine on a 3-year, $30 million deal.
The Mavs brought back Tim Hardaway Jr. on what should be a tradable contract. He has grown into a knockdown shooter who can pump-and-go, and run some pick-and-roll. He's not a good defender, but he tries and has improved.
I've been beating the Sterling Brown drum for years. He's 6-5, can guard three positions, and hit 42% from deep last season. That will likely prove a fluke; Brown was a league-average 3-point shooter before busting out in Houston. He's not as reliable on defense as you might think given his size and versatility, but he has the outlines of a rotation reserve on a good team.
None of this is as exciting as an alternate reality with Kyle Lowry next to Doncic.
Chasing Lowry evinced an internal belief that the Mavs were one player away from title contention. That was an appropriate mindset. Doncic is that good already.
Surrounding Doncic with shooters is the right Plan B, even if it does not resolve the issue of Doncic wearing down late in playoff games because no one else can orchestrate. (There is hope Jalen Brunson becomes that relief orchestrator, but his size is a detriment against elite postseason defenses.) The Mavs are loaded with good role players on value contracts -- grist for trades, even if the Mavs (pending a Kristaps Porzingis revival) don't have the blue-chip players to get in on superstar trades.
Dallas still has semi-reasonable pathways to Goran Dragic, though they are surely wary of surrendering more picks after forking over two in the Porzingis deal.
And that's what everything boils down to: The Mavs have a hard ceiling as long as the gap between their best and second-best players is gargantuan. Porzingis can shrink that gap by finding his groove again on defense, and playing more center. The Mavs can shrink it by trading Porzingis for someone better, but they won't manage that unless Porzingis rounds back into form.
The Mavs made their bed by punting on the first round of the draft for years (they have done well in the second, and excelled with undrafted free agents) and then dealing their remaining equity for Porzingis. They have reprioritized the draft over the past two offseasons, though the results are TBD.
The Mavs are in a bit of a holding pattern around Doncic. But they will be a dangerous playoff team, and they are doing well on the fringes while in that holding pattern. That is the only way to break out of it.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...-offseason
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ChicagojkZach Lowe recaps our offseason. I agree with him that a large part of our future success will be based on getting a more productive KP....either to stay longterm here or trade in the future.
Dallas fans are tired of the Mavericks doing pretty well in free agency after teasing grand plans. I get that. We don't need to recite the free agents who spurned the Mavericks, or the draft assets Dallas forfeited to crack open cap space.
Unwinding the Josh Richardson trade was painful -- an admission of its failure, and of wanderlust for Seth Curry. I liked that trade at the time for both teams. Richardson represented the two-way wing to shore up Dallas' defense and maybe provide secondary creation around the overburdened Luka Doncic.
Reggie Bullock is an archetypal 3-and-D wing with a quick release. (Richardson's slow release was an under-discussed problem.) Bullock brings zero off-the-bounce juice, but he's fine on a 3-year, $30 million deal.
The Mavs brought back Tim Hardaway Jr. on what should be a tradable contract. He has grown into a knockdown shooter who can pump-and-go, and run some pick-and-roll. He's not a good defender, but he tries and has improved.
I've been beating the Sterling Brown drum for years. He's 6-5, can guard three positions, and hit 42% from deep last season. That will likely prove a fluke; Brown was a league-average 3-point shooter before busting out in Houston. He's not as reliable on defense as you might think given his size and versatility, but he has the outlines of a rotation reserve on a good team.
None of this is as exciting as an alternate reality with Kyle Lowry next to Doncic.
Chasing Lowry evinced an internal belief that the Mavs were one player away from title contention. That was an appropriate mindset. Doncic is that good already.
Surrounding Doncic with shooters is the right Plan B, even if it does not resolve the issue of Doncic wearing down late in playoff games because no one else can orchestrate. (There is hope Jalen Brunson becomes that relief orchestrator, but his size is a detriment against elite postseason defenses.) The Mavs are loaded with good role players on value contracts -- grist for trades, even if the Mavs (pending a Kristaps Porzingis revival) don't have the blue-chip players to get in on superstar trades.
Dallas still has semi-reasonable pathways to Goran Dragic, though they are surely wary of surrendering more picks after forking over two in the Porzingis deal.
And that's what everything boils down to: The Mavs have a hard ceiling as long as the gap between their best and second-best players is gargantuan. Porzingis can shrink that gap by finding his groove again on defense, and playing more center. The Mavs can shrink it by trading Porzingis for someone better, but they won't manage that unless Porzingis rounds back into form.
The Mavs made their bed by punting on the first round of the draft for years (they have done well in the second, and excelled with undrafted free agents) and then dealing their remaining equity for Porzingis. They have reprioritized the draft over the past two offseasons, though the results are TBD.
The Mavs are in a bit of a holding pattern around Doncic. But they will be a dangerous playoff team, and they are doing well on the fringes while in that holding pattern. That is the only way to break out of it.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...-offseason
Wow...that didn't work. It is an insider article that I got from somewhere else. It was a good detailed writeup. Sorry.
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Hey man, sorry I tested a theory on your post, but looks like it worked.
I highlighted the whole post then clicked on the “A” button with the red circle and white - in the bottom right. It’s the remove formatting button. Every time I copy and paste anything on this site or others into s post I repeat these steps.
(08-11-2021, 12:48 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Another way is to make your paste "as plaint text" or "without formatting." This is what I did with the toolbox. There is an icon for it.
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(08-11-2021, 12:54 PM)cow Wrote: Not to be a cop, but it seems like bad form to copy/paste an entire paid-for article from any outlet. We agree with this line of thinking. What is preferred is for the link to the article and the most impactful blurb you found in your reading. Summary is even better, but we understand the time that takes.
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(08-11-2021, 12:54 PM)cow Wrote: Not to be a cop, but it seems like bad form to copy/paste an entire paid-for article from any outlet.
Sorry, didn't realize it was behind a pay wall!
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(08-11-2021, 01:00 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Sorry, didn't realize it was behind a pay wall!
No apologies friend. I'm sure no one intended malice. I just don't want our little community to get a negative outside reputation. I doubt anyone knows about us anyway. haha
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08-11-2021, 01:08 PM
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(08-11-2021, 01:03 PM)cow Wrote: No apologies friend. I'm sure no one intended malice. I just don't want our little community to get a negative outside reputation. I doubt anyone knows about us anyway. haha EVERYONE gets their sauces from this forum!!! No exceptions!
Multiple sauces just means other people liked a post!!!
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08-11-2021, 01:12 PM
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Pat Riley gets creatively inspired transactions just by reading Dan and FGump’s posts!!!
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(08-11-2021, 01:12 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Pat Riley gets creatively inspired just by reading Dan and FGump’s posts!!!
If only Mark Cuban would follow suit.
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Ya, it’s weird, he’s the only one that doesn’t read here. That’s his zag to everyone else’s zig. Too bad for him…and us as fans!
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(08-11-2021, 01:00 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Sorry, didn't realize it was behind a pay wall!
Its annoying that ESPN put Zack behind the paywall. Its good to hear an intelligent outside voice regarding the Mavs to get some perspective. I tend to agree with everything he said, but if we don't find a decent point guard before the start of the season, this offseason will go from tolerable to disaster.
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I agree with every word of Zach's article. It's pretty much what most of us have been saying around here for a month.
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(08-11-2021, 05:26 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I agree with every word of Zach's article. It's pretty much what most of us have been saying around here for a month. That’s because we are all his sauces!
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https://www.nba.com/bulls/features/ask-s...e-and-more
Da Bulls
KEN DETTERLINE:
Two teams talked about in the Lauri trade front: Dallas and Minnesota. Dallas has that $10M trade exception, which I'm sure they'd want to use, but doubt Lauri wants to sign for. Regardless, Kleber ($9M) and Finney-Smith ($4M), ideally both, would make so much sense and fill out an really nice ten man rotation. As per Minnesota, knowing they just depleted their assets with the Beverly trade, I'm still really interested in Jarred Vanderbilt. Young, high-octane PF (position of need) who can run, crash the glass and dime. Perfectly ideal for our backup squad and might slide nicely into our $5M trade exception for Theis. In that scenario, that would just be the Bulls signing him and the Wolves refusing to match, as he's a RFA. If this were involved in a trade for Lauri though, are there any restrictions to a RFA for RFA trade?
SAM SMITH:
Minnesota had some interest when they had Rubio, whom they believed the Bulls might be interested in before the Ball signing. Rubio went to Cleveland, so I assume he'll be redirected again. I don't see how Minnesota can do a deal with what they have now. And there's no way the 76ers are taking draft picks. The Timberwolves for now still seem focused on trying to land Ben Simmons. Don't see that, either. The Dallas rumor has been the most prominent regarding Markkanen. You are correct there's no way Markkanen is agreeing to their trade exception after rejecting more money from the Bulls last season and making almost that this season as a free agent. And it doesn't make sense for Dallas to give up two rotation players and defense for Markkanen, who plays similarly to Porzingis. I'm still guessing Markkanen remains a Bull for another season. You can't trade a free agent on a one-year deal.
Me: Who said anything about DFS, um NO.
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(08-20-2021, 05:33 PM)Hypermav Wrote: SAM SMITH:
Minnesota had some interest when they had Rubio, whom they believed the Bulls might be interested in before the Ball signing. Rubio went to Cleveland, so I assume he'll be redirected again. I don't see how Minnesota can do a deal with what they have now. And there's no way the 76ers are taking draft picks. The Timberwolves for now still seem focused on trying to land Ben Simmons. Don't see that, either. The Dallas rumor has been the most prominent regarding Markkanen. You are correct there's no way Markkanen is agreeing to their trade exception after rejecting more money from the Bulls last season and making almost that this season as a free agent. And it doesn't make sense for Dallas to give up two rotation players and defense for Markkanen, who plays similarly to Porzingis. I'm still guessing Markkanen remains a Bull for another season. You can't trade a free agent on a one-year deal.
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