Posts: 2,657
Threads: 6
Likes Received: 2,632 in 1,157 posts
Likes Given: 2,122
Likes Received: 2,632 in 1,157 posts
Likes Given: 2,122
Joined: Nov 2020
I'm wagering that should the Raps have a sell-off, PS is the first player they are keeping to build around. Wouldn't you?
My sense of things on all the Raps players is that rather than trade off players to bidders, they would be looking to bundle 2-3 of them together to get a much better player. Looking for a star, not pieces.
Posts: 15,375
Threads: 52
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Joined: Aug 2020
12-22-2022, 10:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2022, 10:58 AM by KillerLeft.)
(12-22-2022, 10:50 AM)F Gump Wrote: I'm wagering that should the Raps have a sell-off, PS is the first player they are keeping to build around. Wouldn't you?
Maybe, maybe not. He's 28, which is about the age when players get a little "malcontentish" about feeling like they can't win. They've had issues in the past there between Siakim and management.
He's the guy they've been trying to build around since Kawhi Leonard chose the Clippers...and now people want them to tear down. To me, that suggests that maybe he'll be the FIRST one to go, so that they can start focusing on Barnes as a cornerstone.
EDIT: if they actually tear down, of course. As you say, they might be looking to improve, not to reset, which doesn't happen as often as the Mavs/media think it should.
Posts: 8,223
Threads: 11
Likes Received: 4,242 in 2,294 posts
Likes Given: 1,148
Likes Received: 4,242 in 2,294 posts
Likes Given: 1,148
Joined: Sep 2019
(12-22-2022, 10:50 AM)F Gump Wrote: I'm wagering that should the Raps have a sell-off, PS is the first player they are keeping to build around. Wouldn't you?
My sense of things on all the Raps players is that rather than trade off players to bidders, they would be looking to bundle 2-3 of them together to get a much better player. Looking for a star, not pieces.
Agreed. I think they are looking to move some of the rotation guys that aren´t really needed as long as they are missing a legit first option. But if the offer isn´t involving multiple unprotected picks I don´t expect them to move Siakam or OG.
Someone already mentioned it. They have everything in place. Except for the superstar franchise player. That´s the hardest player to find but if they play it right they might be able to repeat something like the Kawhi trade.
They probably want to cash in on some of the guys that might interest teams that are all in this year. Selling Trent Jr, Boucher or Porter Jr. Maybe Van Vleet.
Posts: 15,375
Threads: 52
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Joined: Aug 2020
(12-22-2022, 10:58 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Selling Trent Jr, Boucher or Porter Jr. Maybe Van Vleet.
Those names are all intriguing, too, on various levels lower than Siakim.
Posts: 793
Threads: 5
Likes Received: 204 in 126 posts
Likes Given: 25
Likes Received: 204 in 126 posts
Likes Given: 25
Joined: Nov 2019
He probably becomes available. It won't matter...
The bidding on Siakim will far exceed what Dallas can offer... unless it drags on into the summer: Then Dallas can offer up 3 first rd picks (after the draft) in 24, 26, 28 and Toronto should look at this franchise and gamble on '28 being unprotected.
Posts: 15,375
Threads: 52
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Joined: Aug 2020
(12-22-2022, 11:02 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: He probably becomes available. It won't matter...
The bidding on Siakim will far exceed what Dallas can offer... unless it drags on into the summer: Then Dallas can offer up 3 first rd picks (after the draft) in 24, 26, 28 and Toronto should look at this franchise and gamble on '28 being unprotected.
See, maybe this is naive of me, but I can actually envision him potentially going for less than that (if he's ever really available). He seems to be kind of a league afterthought, for whatever reason.
Posts: 879
Threads: 0
Likes Received: 575 in 342 posts
Likes Given: 921
Likes Received: 575 in 342 posts
Likes Given: 921
Joined: Feb 2022
With Siakam, I can see him going for a little less simply because some team is presumably paying for the privilege of handing him a 40m a year contract. But not too much less. I think it’d be a question of the level of protections or whether we include Hardy. But anything less than 3 first round picks for Pascal would be a huge win. I think I prefer him to OG because of his superior rebounding and playmaking. OG is a few years younger and maybe a better pure shooter and slightly better defender. Siakam also has a nice mid-range game. I’m sure he is valued by GMs around the league as a top 20-25ish player, all things considered.
Posts: 7,821
Threads: 71
Likes Received: 1,765 in 1,221 posts
Likes Given: 2,745
Likes Received: 1,765 in 1,221 posts
Likes Given: 2,745
Joined: Sep 2019
(12-22-2022, 12:32 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: OG is a few years younger This and what it would cost to get him (vs Siakam) is fully the reason I want OG over Siakam. If they are tearing it down, OG will be on the outs, however, the smart play would be to trade FVV and Siakam to get the right pieces around OG, Trent and Barnes. Orl would be a really good trade partner for them having all those C's.
Posts: 19,353
Threads: 619
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 19,353
Threads: 619
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 4,587
Threads: 5
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Joined: Oct 2019
(12-22-2022, 08:23 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: The Orlando Magic playing good ball. I wish the Mavs would role the dice on guys like Fultz and Bol Bol. It is tough when you are trying to win, but I would really like some low cost gambles on young guys rather than the Sterling Brown's of the world.
I have always been sort of a fan of Mo Wagner. He has played well this year. Say what you want with the Lakers, but they draft well in the late first and second rounds. Unfortunately, most of their picks are now on other teams. Although, while Wagner is a solid player they did pass on Brunson, Robert Wiliiams, Gary Trent and Jared Vanderbilt. So I guess I shouldn't give them too much props on the Wagner selection.
As Forrest Gump so aptly put it, "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get" You can say the same for drafting players in the NBA.
Posts: 4,587
Threads: 5
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 6,571
Threads: 17
Likes Received: 3,261 in 1,907 posts
Likes Given: 180
Likes Received: 3,261 in 1,907 posts
Likes Given: 180
Joined: Oct 2020
What a strange situation. Charlotte had two back to back end of the lottery picks and wound up with one player who they are not playing. I think it was known he was not a finished product, but just weird he is getting no playing time with the real team.
https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status...1628393473
Posts: 4,587
Threads: 5
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Joined: Oct 2019
12-23-2022, 07:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-23-2022, 07:32 AM by HoosierDaddyKid.)
Posts: 4,587
Threads: 5
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Likes Received: 749 in 575 posts
Likes Given: 1,060
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 19,353
Threads: 619
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 15,375
Threads: 52
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Likes Received: 7,653 in 4,196 posts
Likes Given: 9,408
Joined: Aug 2020
(12-23-2022, 08:58 AM)Kammrath Wrote:
The Mavs are really missing Kleber and DFS. On the bright side, I think the offense has been much better since injuries forced Kidd to remember spacing is important.
Posts: 19,353
Threads: 619
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 19,353
Threads: 619
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 19,353
Threads: 619
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Likes Received: 4,455 in 2,760 posts
Likes Given: 1,941
Joined: Sep 2019
|