MAVS NEWS:

[KillerLeft]

...and they can take their time with Lively, cause they already know, that they´ll give him an extension. If what is reported about this whole situation is remotely true, he can probably successfully sue the Mavs for loss of future earnings due to gross negligence. There will be a number at which Rich Paul, the NBAPA, Lively and Mavs will be comfortable with to avoid this getting really ugly.

Lol, maybe they slip a waiver into his extension contract somewhere and hope he signs it by accident.

[F Gump]

Clearly. Every single move they've made has indicated a long term view of the situation, NOT an attempt to be as good as possible this season. I feel it's objectively the "right" way to approach the job, too, it's just that I worry about the collective morale of this place when the other half of the board figures out what this all means.

Not sure who this "other half of the board" is that you are dissing, but what was said sure doesn't mean anything different than what we have all been saying. It was neither a prediction the Mavs will be bad, nor a proclamation that they don't care, nor a give up on what they want to be. It's just a statement they are in no panic, and will be deliberate in how they head forward.  

But if we have learned anything so far, isn't that just how Masai does business?

I does give ME a reassurance that the Mavs aren't even thinking of chasing a fire sale to get rid of this veteran or that group, but instead are seeing how the team will look when when they start trying to win. 

I think they will be trying to win, and win big. (That's not an outcome, but mindset and process.) But as they do, I think the message is they won't make big risky moves, and instead will be grinding and tweaking and developing and the like, and see where that takes them.

[F Gump]

I'm glad he's taking things slowly this time around. Hopefully, that increases the chances of getting this injury behind him, but who knows? I certainly wouldn't rush things to get on the court right away (although I'm sure he's wanting to get back soon, given his approaching contractual questions - I bet he's pretty stressed about it all, frankly). 

Part of me is always going to wonder what impact Harrison's awful medical staff had on this situation.

Nico stupidly made it worse. But DL's brittleness showed in his rookie year. 

I was putting up cautions before mid-season in year 2, when he had to miss a week or more for the 6th time. Lots of talent, but you never get it on the floor.

Of course that was just the tip of the iceberg. In the last 1.5 seasons since then, what has he played - maybe a dozen games?

Told everyone last fall that no extension is coming. No one believed it. Now i'll add one more caution -- unless he plays a ton this season, I don't see the Mavs chasing him as a FA in 27. They might make him a RFA, but I think at best they will be reactive, not proactive, towards more years.

[Chicagojk]

I had given up Lively being a starter next year but him not even playing yet in the summer confirms that. I think you are looking at 15 minutes per game to start the season. I am still a big fan of his but the injuries have certainly acted my view. Just need to get him healthy and slowly bring him back in the flow. If around, Gafford is your starter to begin year

[ThisIStheYear]

There’s really no carefully staged long term strategy to be had. This was always going to be a one year rebuild. There are no future draft picks. They have some tradable assets scaled properly for the apron/hard cap era, mainly Klay’s expiring and Naji’s reasonable contract, and they have a nice TPE. But they have to move soon on all of that. There’s not going to be a full rebuild, just an effort to add the missing quality shooting guard and then tweak and develop.

But, it’s not so bad. They have a top 5 talent drafted this century going into his second year leap. Flagg should be an all star caliber player next year. They have a really nice draft pick to compliment him and do a lot of the dirty work. They have a supporting cast that if healthy is practically identical to the supporting cast around Luka’s finals squad, only deeper. While pretty much anyone would be better than Kidd, they actually probably now have a bona fide good coach. They have everything they need except health and a quality shooting guard.

[Scott41theMavs]

Nico stupidly made it worse. But DL's brittleness showed in his rookie year. 

I was putting up cautions before mid-season in year 2, when he had to miss a week or more for the 6th time. Lots of talent, but you never get it on the floor.

Of course that was just the tip of the iceberg. In the last 1.5 seasons since then, what has he played - maybe a dozen games?

Told everyone last fall that no extension is coming. No one believed it. Now i'll add one more caution -- unless he plays a ton this season, I don't see the Mavs chasing him as a FA in 27. They might make him a RFA, but I think at best they will be reactive, not proactive, towards more years.

I'll take that as a "thumbs down" to Mavs2021's "liability" take.

[cow]

I don't see the Mavs chasing him as a FA in 27. They might make him a RFA, but I think at best they will be reactive, not proactive, towards more years.

This approach would give me a little added faith to Ujiri and the current MBT.

[michaeltex]

FWIW, I think you need the size and mobility Lively brings to compete in the WC against teams like SA and OKC. It’s hard to find so you don’t give up without a fight.

[mvossman]

Kyrie, PJ, and Gafford are all coming off lost seasons. Trading any of them now just seems like an obviously bad idea. 

Not sure Gafford will be able to increase his value if they don't run a P&R heavy offense with somebody that can take advantage of his primary skill.  There is also the possibility Lively is actually healthy and between him and Rez, Gafford has trouble getting minutes.  Too much smoke on Gafford trades to think he is not on the block.

PJ is a Masai kind of guy, a hometown guy, and the kind of player that will play better with a functional roster (I hope they get to that point).  His value will probably increase and they may not be looking to trade him any time soon.

Kyrie is an interesting case.  He is kind of on the clock from a value perspective.  His most likely peak value is TDL due to contract, age and the fact that folks are going to want to see him on the court.  Who knows if he will ever be on the block.  You would think long term building around Flagg would involve an eventual Kyrie trade, but the message has been very consistent than they don't plan on it.

[Smitty]

Special.

https://x.com/NBAPerformances/status/207...deo/1?s=46

[speedkilz88]

Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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Former Pelicans coach Willie Green, who has been pursued by Golden State to rejoin Steve Kerr's staff as an assistant, also has interest from Dallas as new Mavericks coach Dusty May assembles his first NBA staff, league sources say.

Former Bucks coach Adrian Griffin and Heat consultant Noah LaRoche have likewise been mentioned as expected candidates for May's bench in Dallas. As
@TheSteinLine
previously reported, LaRoche was part of the monthlong interview process that eventually led to May's hiring.

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[Scott41theMavs]

Special.

https://x.com/NBAPerformances/status/207...deo/1?s=46

Too bad he's not an alpha creator.

[mvossman]

Too bad he's not an alpha creator.

Has anybody suggested he wasn’t an alpha?

[windjc]

Honestly I could not give one flying rats butt if anyone in here or any random message board has confidence in Lively’s body. Who cares? No one. I’ll see what the medics and training staff say. Lively sounds like he is taking his time. Smart. Good for him. If that stresses you out then deal with it.

[Smitty]

@TheSteinLine
The Mavericks plan to exercise guard Ryan Nembhard's $2.2 million team option for next season before today's 5 PM ET deadline, league sources say.

Nembhard set an NBA rookie record with 23 assists in Dallas’ season finale against Chicago.

[Smitty]

@TheSteinLine
Ryan Nembhard is currently on the 16-man roster for @CanBball’s upcoming @FIBAWC qualifying window and is scheduled to then join the Mavericks for summer league after his stint with the national team, league sources say.

[Scott41theMavs]

@TheSteinLine
The Mavericks plan to exercise guard Ryan Nembhard's $2.2 million team option for next season before today's 5 PM ET deadline, league sources say.

Nembhard set an NBA rookie record with 23 assists in Dallas’ season finale against Chicago.

Wonderful! Masai must have said, “Short help is better than no help!”

[Mavs2021]

Are there any major trade benefit rules to operating under the salary cap compared to being under the 1st apron?

Irving 39.5 / De Larrea 3.2 / Nembhard 2.3
Christie 8.3 / Thompson 17.5 / Johnson 3.2
Flagg 14.5 / Marshall 9.4 / Ishchenko 2.0 (?)
Washington 19.8 / Johnson 6.8 / Martin 10.0
Gafford 17.2 / Lively 7.3 / X

161 + X = 165

Still expect them to move Thompson, Johnson and Martin, but they really changed the cap trajectory with that Davis deal. Would love to know whether Masai already approved that deal or would have liked to keep or trade Davis himself.

[SleepingHero]

Are there any major trade benefit rules to operating under the salary cap compared to being under the 1st apron?

The main benefit is that you're not restricted in any salary matching rules at all if you're operating under the salary cap. 

Over the cap you're limited to 125%+100k in every trade deal, versus under the cap, you can absorb any salary you want up to your cap space limit.

[Mavs2021]

The main benefit is that you're not restricted in any salary matching rules at all if you're operating under the salary cap. 

Over the cap you're limited to 125%+100k in every trade deal, versus under the cap, you can absorb any salary you want up to your cap space limit.

That was clear, but I thought there might be some additional benefits considering how complex the tax penalties, apron rules and penalties have become.